SAA B747-400 turnback (threads merged)
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Revenge of the news : Now SAA has tech problems ..
The game with the media is on .... SAA vs the cheapies .. they all get Tech but the media get's involved 
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A South African Airways flight bound for Mauritius returned to Johannesburg on Saturday after developing technical problems, SABC radio news reported.
Around 300 passengers were accommodated at an hotel near Johannesburg International Airport.
They hoped to be able to board a flight on Sunday, the report said.
Around 300 passengers were accommodated at an hotel near Johannesburg International Airport.
They hoped to be able to board a flight on Sunday, the report said.
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No great Press Mania here -why ?
B.Souza
You're probably unaware of the huge Press Mania over anything that happens to the "Cheapies " tech problems ?
The Press were baying like hounds ! They wrote lots-all about "all the passengers were praying " " because we thought we were about to die ", "the aircraft was twisting & turning & shaking "
On the SAA turn-back , somehow the Press hounds were missing & no "last moment terrifying ordeals" have so far been published ! Also as it probably was not deemed sensational enough , it only was worth a small headline with very short text.
Maybe they were chained in their kennels by the head-kennel keepers ? !
You're probably unaware of the huge Press Mania over anything that happens to the "Cheapies " tech problems ?
The Press were baying like hounds ! They wrote lots-all about "all the passengers were praying " " because we thought we were about to die ", "the aircraft was twisting & turning & shaking "
On the SAA turn-back , somehow the Press hounds were missing & no "last moment terrifying ordeals" have so far been published ! Also as it probably was not deemed sensational enough , it only was worth a small headline with very short text.
Maybe they were chained in their kennels by the head-kennel keepers ? !
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B Sousa, check out the thread 1 Time engine out that'll explain it.
If the journos don't want to make a big deal out of SAA tech problems then I will
The other day passengers were gripped in a struggle for their lives when an SAA a/c bound for Mauritius was in danger of plunging into the ocean due to technical problems.
SAA were not available for comment, but many one passenger said, "It was the scariest moment of my life, I thought I was going to die. We heard a soft bang and then the captain said that we would be returning to joburg, where we would die on landing. He told us to call our loved ones and say our goodbyes."
Is SAA cutting costs and safety to try compete with the new low cost airlines that are doing so well? Only the future will tell.
The end (and they didn't live happily ever after)
Wonder which newspaper is going to offer me a job
If the journos don't want to make a big deal out of SAA tech problems then I will
The other day passengers were gripped in a struggle for their lives when an SAA a/c bound for Mauritius was in danger of plunging into the ocean due to technical problems.
SAA were not available for comment, but many one passenger said, "It was the scariest moment of my life, I thought I was going to die. We heard a soft bang and then the captain said that we would be returning to joburg, where we would die on landing. He told us to call our loved ones and say our goodbyes."
Is SAA cutting costs and safety to try compete with the new low cost airlines that are doing so well? Only the future will tell.
The end (and they didn't live happily ever after)
Wonder which newspaper is going to offer me a job
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Pax fine, cabin crew not...
The passengers were fine, albeit again disappointed by the national carrier.
But three SAA cabin crew attendants were rushed to hospital on arrival back at JIA, suffering from severe exhaustion, shock and minor injuries, after they suddenly had to rush around, hiding smuggled wares and flushing banned substances down the loo's...hehehehe
But three SAA cabin crew attendants were rushed to hospital on arrival back at JIA, suffering from severe exhaustion, shock and minor injuries, after they suddenly had to rush around, hiding smuggled wares and flushing banned substances down the loo's...hehehehe
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I have an idea.......
Lets fill and Antanov full of journalists........send them to DRC.
Hopefully that will educate them about aviation.......if they get back to write the crap they normally come up with....
Lets fill and Antanov full of journalists........send them to DRC.
Hopefully that will educate them about aviation.......if they get back to write the crap they normally come up with....
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I thought SAA flew a 737 to Mauritius. Perhaps it was the fact that they put "300 pax in hotel" from the a/c that caused the overloaded door seal to fail catastrophically. (perhaps I am wrong and they flew a 340 on the day!!
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Send Journo's to DRC !!
Ha Ha !
That will really dry up their ink !
What about a enticement to get them all there in one AN-26 load-to the scene of the mythical "event "
Someone needs to be naughty enough to play the "Devil's Advocate " after consuming some 'courage ' !
That will really dry up their ink !
What about a enticement to get them all there in one AN-26 load-to the scene of the mythical "event "
Someone needs to be naughty enough to play the "Devil's Advocate " after consuming some 'courage ' !
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The aircraft involved was a B747-400, ZS-SAW. It couldn't have been too serious a problem as that same aircraft left this morning for Mauritius , followed by another aircraft, an Airbus A340-200 about half an hour later. Seems to be a busy time of the year for pax to Mauritius.
Perhaps the crew simply ran out of duty time to complete the flight yesterday after the aircraft was repaired as the same crew does the outbound and return flights. This is probably close to 10hrs in total.
Perhaps the crew simply ran out of duty time to complete the flight yesterday after the aircraft was repaired as the same crew does the outbound and return flights. This is probably close to 10hrs in total.
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Interesting that SAA gets a mention on this forum-they are so squeaky clean and NEVER have incidents-its only the LCC's and Nationwide that are given recognition for this "honour".
Lucky for SAA that it happened on a Saturday so Beeld /News24 couldnt blow it out of proportion like they have been doing to the rest lately.
But, watch how quickly it will die as the "national airline" feeds the flying public the normal public relations garbage that it has in the past.Only the other money making operators have the privelege of excessive bad press in response to their technical hiicups.
Lucky for SAA that it happened on a Saturday so Beeld /News24 couldnt blow it out of proportion like they have been doing to the rest lately.
But, watch how quickly it will die as the "national airline" feeds the flying public the normal public relations garbage that it has in the past.Only the other money making operators have the privelege of excessive bad press in response to their technical hiicups.
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Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense. If your a newsie and you want front row coverage at Mr Prezs' conference, you had better cover the news the way he wants it...........
We have that in the states. We call it "Spin"
We have that in the states. We call it "Spin"
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APR I am with you one hundred percent. Well done to the crew for getting the airie on the ground. And to the people who are up in arms - we always praise the crews of other airlines (check the forums). It's not who they fly for, it's how they handled the situation. 
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Exhaust Manifold - you weren't far wrong regarding the subsequent newspaper article:
Sunday Times 25 Sept, page 13
"PANIC ON SAA FLIGHT
..... One passenger said there was chaos in the aircraft's upper deck after the cabin crew there lost their composure.
Downstairs, the strain told on some of the younger faces.
The kids were crying. One young girl went to pieces....."
Sunday Times 25 Sept, page 13
"PANIC ON SAA FLIGHT
..... One passenger said there was chaos in the aircraft's upper deck after the cabin crew there lost their composure.
Downstairs, the strain told on some of the younger faces.
The kids were crying. One young girl went to pieces....."
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I told you so....
three SAA cabin crew attendants were rushed to hospital on arrival back at JIA, suffering from severe exhaustion, shock and minor injuries(sic)
Apparently they were like headless chickens, running around in circles and couldn't handle themselves, what to say the emergency.
It will most probably cost SAA one day, worse it could cost the passengers, in the cabin crews "not so capable" hands, their lives. If ever in an accident look out the window and run towards the ashened colour face waving at you... They will be that colour as they will have had all the crap scared out of them.
I'd rather have had a Nationwide hostie or two in the back of my aircraft than a whole bunch of incompetent, headless thus brainless, arrogant farmer brown chickens. (Farmer Brown chickens: renowned for soft and plump chickens.)
I am sure the Nationwide hosties, at half the price, still produce double the goods with a smile on their faces and can get the job done under pressure.
hehehehe
What a circus...hehehehe
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SAA skygod's 747-400 depresh
'I heard a loud bang'
26/09/2005 08:48 - (SA)
Carla Mouton
Johannesburg - "I thought the plane would fall. It sounded as if the door was going to blow out."
This was the reaction of a shocked Gary Lang on Sunday after a Boeing 747-400 of South African Airways (SAA) had to turn back to Johannesburg to perform an emergency landing on Saturday morning. Lang was one of 331 passengers on flight SA 190 to Mauritius.
The jumbo jet turned back about 20 minutes into the flight because an inside panel of a door on the top deck came undone.
"I heard a loud bang and suddenly it became very cold on the plane. The oxygen masks fell from the roof and the captain announced that he would be dropping the plane to 1 000 feet so that we could breathe more easily," another passenger, Robert Ferley, said.
He and his wife were on their way to Mauritius to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary.
"My wife, Gertrude, prayed throughout. It was very quiet on the plane."
The disappointed passengers were waiting in lines before the airport building on Saturday afternoon, waiting for busses to take them to hotels in the area.
"Bad, bad, bad. They should have made sure that the plane was in order. The crew members were also incompetent. They made us wait on our baggage for four hours and they simply turned their backs to us when we asked what was going on," an angry Teresa Barnard said.
Emotions were also running high because no oxygen apparently flowed from the masks that came down from the panels above their heads.
"The flight was scheduled to leave at 13:30, but was cancelled eventually because the crew was apparently too traumatised," Ilse Shenck, said. Two families who were on their way to assist in their children's wedding arrangements as well as the best man and flower girls, were frustrated as they were standing around.
"My son is getting married on Monday. If I am lucky, I'll be in time," Denise Hollander said.
Sarah Uys, SAA spokesperson, said it was the first time that something like this happened on a Boeing 747-400 flight.
"SAA will report this incident to the Civil Aviation Authorities (CAA) and Boeing. It could prompt an inspection of the entire 747-400 fleet," Uys said.
Regarding the alleged lack of oxygen from the asks, Uys said it had not been necessary to use the masks.
Gilbert Thwala, chief executive of case investigations at the CAA, said on Sunday that a preliminary investigation has already been launched. "The plane apparently experienced pressure problems during the flight. At this stage, it seems as if there was a problem with a cabin door."
bunch of clowns!
26/09/2005 08:48 - (SA)
Carla Mouton
Johannesburg - "I thought the plane would fall. It sounded as if the door was going to blow out."
This was the reaction of a shocked Gary Lang on Sunday after a Boeing 747-400 of South African Airways (SAA) had to turn back to Johannesburg to perform an emergency landing on Saturday morning. Lang was one of 331 passengers on flight SA 190 to Mauritius.
The jumbo jet turned back about 20 minutes into the flight because an inside panel of a door on the top deck came undone.
"I heard a loud bang and suddenly it became very cold on the plane. The oxygen masks fell from the roof and the captain announced that he would be dropping the plane to 1 000 feet so that we could breathe more easily," another passenger, Robert Ferley, said.
He and his wife were on their way to Mauritius to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary.
"My wife, Gertrude, prayed throughout. It was very quiet on the plane."
The disappointed passengers were waiting in lines before the airport building on Saturday afternoon, waiting for busses to take them to hotels in the area.
"Bad, bad, bad. They should have made sure that the plane was in order. The crew members were also incompetent. They made us wait on our baggage for four hours and they simply turned their backs to us when we asked what was going on," an angry Teresa Barnard said.
Emotions were also running high because no oxygen apparently flowed from the masks that came down from the panels above their heads.
"The flight was scheduled to leave at 13:30, but was cancelled eventually because the crew was apparently too traumatised," Ilse Shenck, said. Two families who were on their way to assist in their children's wedding arrangements as well as the best man and flower girls, were frustrated as they were standing around.
"My son is getting married on Monday. If I am lucky, I'll be in time," Denise Hollander said.
Sarah Uys, SAA spokesperson, said it was the first time that something like this happened on a Boeing 747-400 flight.
"SAA will report this incident to the Civil Aviation Authorities (CAA) and Boeing. It could prompt an inspection of the entire 747-400 fleet," Uys said.
Regarding the alleged lack of oxygen from the asks, Uys said it had not been necessary to use the masks.
Gilbert Thwala, chief executive of case investigations at the CAA, said on Sunday that a preliminary investigation has already been launched. "The plane apparently experienced pressure problems during the flight. At this stage, it seems as if there was a problem with a cabin door."
bunch of clowns!
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"I heard a loud bang and suddenly it became very cold on the plane. The oxygen masks fell from the roof and the captain announced that he would be dropping the plane to 1 000 feet so that we could breathe more easily," another passenger, Robert Ferley, said.
awefully low for a 744
Emotions were also running high because no oxygen apparently flowed from the masks that came down from the panels above their heads.
Maybe the captain got the plane to 1 000 feet really quick so they didn't need the oxygen
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Emotions were also running high because no oxygen apparently flowed from the masks that came down from the panels above their heads.
Did anyone put on a mask? Where they asphyxiated? I think not.
