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Boeing Junkie 8th Mar 2024 14:11

UA2477 suffers runway excursion at KIAH
 
737-Max 8 tail # N27290 currently sitting a ditch at KIAH


mkenig 8th Mar 2024 15:09

Reports are left gear ran onto soft grass adjacent/turning onto last taxiway. Not a ditch, not overrun excursion. Taxi issue in heavy rain and fog?

BFSGrad 8th Mar 2024 15:24

Landed runway 27.

KIAH 081353Z 19005KT 1 1/2SM BR BKN008 OVC018 23/22 A2971 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 2 1/2 SLP059 T02280217

procede 8th Mar 2024 15:51

Live ATC:

BFSGrad 8th Mar 2024 22:49

More complete pertinent ATC audio in the version:


DIBO 8th Mar 2024 23:27

A/C "Can we roll it all the way to the end?"
TWR "Keep your speed up"
Then initiating a 90° turn onto SC twy at a GS of 30-ish kts, on a wet/damp surface...

Hueymeister 9th Mar 2024 00:04

Yup, that’ll do it.

BFSGrad 9th Mar 2024 00:09

Makes you wonder why UAL was unable to make the high speed (SF) at the 8,000 ft point. Suspect ATC was planning an SF exit for spacing with the next arrival (1383), thus the “keep your speed up.”

Any bets on whether the CVR was vaporized? At least the FDR will tell the tale.

MechEngr 9th Mar 2024 02:42

Ran when parked.
No low ballers.
We know what we have.

Photos on news show considerable turf damage from going sideways off the taxiway. I expect the groundskeeper will demand United replace the divot.

ozbiggles 9th Mar 2024 09:14


Originally Posted by MechEngr (Post 11611833)
Ran when parked.
No low ballers.
We know what we have.

Photos on news show considerable turf damage from going sideways off the taxiway. I expect the groundskeeper will demand United replace the divot.

Good luck with that, how long did it take them to replace a guitar?

BoeingDriver99 9th Mar 2024 10:29

Any motorcyclist will tell you; the painted bits are slippery when wet. Avoid at all costs. And the piano keys make for a hell of a lot of paint for slipping on.

Ripper3785 9th Mar 2024 12:05


ABC13 first heard the Houston Fire Department reporting the incident on radio traffic around 8 a.m. HFD first reported an "alert two," which means a plane in the air has had some kind of incident that requires emergency response. Within minutes, HFD escalated it to an "alert three," which means a plane has had an incident on the ground.
I assume this is just bad info or someone made a mistaken radio call re:alert level. When i read it I was reminded of the stuck rudder from cold soaked servo of another MAX 8.

BraceBrace 9th Mar 2024 12:07


Originally Posted by BoeingDriver99 (Post 11612052)
Any motorcyclist will tell you; the painted bits are slippery when wet. Avoid at all costs. And the piano keys make for a hell of a lot of paint for slipping on.

On the topic of slippery paint, a bigger "threat" is lack of knowledge on the "no weight on the nosewheel" situation. Widebody people generally are aware, but it's less known with 737 classic and NG skippers as FOs have less taxi experience prior upgrade. It's a remark that is commonly made when upgrading these FO's.

This Ryanair has already proven they can easily get it done on a dry runway as well...

(ok, Ryanair folks... I know the purple video is out there :-))

Anyway, not saying this is what happened here. Lots is possible.

Flch250 9th Mar 2024 12:20

Am I mistaken? You are on the runway and it is yours. What is this may we stuff?

BoeingDriver99 9th Mar 2024 13:01

Purple video??? Spill the beans!

Chiefttp 9th Mar 2024 13:36

Purple Video?
Are you referring to the recent FedEx MD-11 taxiing video? It was a MX taxi not pilots at the controls.note the gear pin flag on the left main gear flapping at the end of the video
https://barandgrill.ipapilot.org/hom...mp4%3Ftag%3D12

BraceBrace 9th Mar 2024 14:37


Originally Posted by Chiefttp (Post 11612153)
Purple Video?
Are you referring to the recent FedEx MD-11 taxiing video? It was a MX taxi not pilots at the controls.note the gear pin flag on the left main gear flapping at the end of the video
https://barandgrill.ipapilot.org/hom...mp4%3Ftag%3D12

Nice catch! Didn’t know that ... although I know pilots...

ok going too off topic now 😀

BFSGrad 9th Mar 2024 14:52

View of the tire tracks (skid marks?) at 0:51.

Lake1952 9th Mar 2024 17:18

Is the tilt due to left main gear sinking into soft ground, a ditch or gear failure?

Boeingdriver999 9th Mar 2024 17:38


Originally Posted by Chiefttp (Post 11612153)
Purple Video?
Are you referring to the recent FedEx MD-11 taxiing video? It was a MX taxi not pilots at the controls.note the gear pin flag on the left main gear flapping at the end of the video
https://barandgrill.ipapilot.org/hom...mp4%3Ftag%3D12

No idea; hence the question....

If the main gear made those skid marks they must have been hauling ass.... Plus max manual braking would have given a bit of Swedish flick to the nose gear.

Nothing a UA crew couldn't accomplish in a normal day of work... if they worked

That's a joke by the way; keep your main wheels on


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