Hawker 900 down in Utah
From Denver Post, 8/2/2024:
", a Hawker 900XP charter plane, took off from Grand Junction at 10:37 a.m. and crashed just ten minutes later on the Utah side of the border, according to flight tracking site ADS-B Exchange.The plane was headed for Tacoma, Washington, according to Utah’s Grand County Sheriff’s Office in a news release." Deputies confirmed a pilot and second in command were on the plane. The release said notification of the next of kin would come before their identities were released. A post about the crash on the Aviation Safety Network website stated the two occupants of the plane were dead. |
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/351542 Further details as provided.
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That is going to be an interesting report. Was there any convective weather or severe mountain waves/CAT around? The Hawker is a pretty strong plane, and its is also fairly benign handling, and has the stick pusher/ident system. aerodynamically, the plane doesn't have particularly untidy manners. At 20,000' they have buckets of excess trust, even with one only going. Curious.
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The data shows a climb to 20,000 feet then level flight. Initial high speed cruise but then a gradual and steady speed reduction in level flight until a possible stall and high speed descent
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Word 'on the street' from other forums suggests a post-TKS maintenance stall test.
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Stall test after maintenance. You can guarantee this test was going to end in tears one day. |
For a C of A renewal a stall test used to be called IMMSMC and it was removed by most authorities. One of my past employers decided to do such a test flight as accepting a used classic B747 type into their service; the post flight report was a scary incident in which the recovery also involved overspeed of N1 on at least two engines.
Surprised there is a procedure for this high tail model 900XP. |
Stall testing on DC-9 Super 80 (fuselage 909) came very close to needing spin chute deployment. Why would testing after wing maintenance require testing past sick pusher alpha or even beyond shaker?
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Originally Posted by fdr
(Post 11593355)
That is going to be an interesting report. Was there any convective weather or severe mountain waves/CAT around? The Hawker is a pretty strong plane, and its is also fairly benign handling, and has the stick pusher/ident system. aerodynamically, the plane doesn't have particularly untidy manners. At 20,000' they have buckets of excess trust, even with one only going. Curious.
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The airplane’s major structures were all accounted for at the accident site. |
Originally Posted by Jhieminga
(Post 11609291)
A corkscrew path sounds suspiciously like a spinning airframe.
edit to add image derived from low resolution ADS-B data: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....33a80e9b84.png |
Spin or spiral dive?
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Originally Posted by Bergerie1
(Post 11609596)
Spin or spiral dive?
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