Beech Premier down on apprach RWY 15 WMSA
 

Kuala Lumpur - Bad VLJ accident, 8 on board, 2 on ground, just north of Shah Alam, at the entrance of a housing complex. US rego, N28JV, operated locally. Flight from Pulau Langkawi to Subang, WMSA, Kuala Lumpur.

R.I.P.

Can not post them but few graphic dashcam video are making the rounds.
Apparently straight nose dive to impact. Aircraft seems structurally intact. Odd

one link several vieuws.

From what I saw on FR24 the aircraft was established on final for runway 15 and roughly 3 miles out when it suddenly veered off track. Seemed very sudden.

looks way too fast to be in a stall

assuming 30fps video in the link above, they were impacting at about 210m/s (~750km/h / ~400 kts). Doesn't look like gear or flaps are out either. Certainly not looking like a stall recovery at those speeds...

Looked at the ADS-B data on RealTraffic. Looks like an uneventful ILS/GS capture on AP with MCP alt set to 2500ft at 185kts GS, then descending on the glide with matching descent rate for an established approach, then reducing speed 150ish kts. On passing FL010 (1000ft at std pressure alt), ground speed dips to 144kts, and position starts to turn hard right. No more data updates after that except for position data, showing tight right turn, perhaps a stall.

They certainly didn't finish the approach check as the missed approach altitude wasn't set on the MCP (remained 2500ft til the end, should be 3000ft for LOC/ILS15). Could be a hint that some other critical items were forgotten, like flaps, and gear (missing from the video posted above as well).

What's the clean stall speed of a Premier 1?

Can't seem to attach a zip file with kml/csv data - PM me if interested.

More interesting though is what is the stall speed at heavy weight with 8 people on board. This is just something to be aware of.

Single pilot owner/operator?...I believe this Beech was produced to compete with Citation, etc....

Was reported as 2 crew, but that of course excludes what qualifications the RHS may have had.

Thanks for the info and that's true about RHS...Just saw that report and it also says a charter flight?...IIRC US FAR 135, charter with pax, used to require 2 crew on SP Citations...SP ok for charter freight (fun flying) and Part 91 ops...

Clear video with final seconds of flight...forgive my personal humble point of view... Almost seems deriberately... weird!!



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Looks like gear and flaps up and high speed. Why no recovery inputs?

Aircraft was N28JV operated by Jetvalet Sdn Bhd, also operate a G4 and Beech 4000, established during the pandemic by ex airline folk.

Here are a couple of plots. The aircraft was equipped with decent ADS-B out capability which includes BDS6,0 messages. This means we know what the MCP altitude and headings were set to. Hence my post above that the MA alt was not set at above 1000ft AGL (stable approach criteria) so likely a check was missed. IAS is also transmitted in these messages and we therefore know the speed decayed to as low as 144kts before a sudden increase in geometric descent rate. Note the geometric rates are calculated from the ADS-B position messages, not from the barometric rate, and are thus the only data points providing vertical speed info during the last 10 seconds.


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Flash Behind Aircraft?
 

What is the flash of light from the tail of the aircraft at the 2 second mark?

I think that's a sunlight reflection off the leading edges of the wings. Seems to roughly align with sun being overhead slightly to the left (check shadows of road markers).

Just been reading the report on a Bombardier Challenger 605 accident where they overcooked the turn to final.Seems a lot of right bank on, wonder if similar.

this Premier accident doesn't look like anyone "overcooked" anything - whatever that means. Looks more like simply forgot flaps and slowed down into a stall in a heavy airplane. Controlled FLight outside the enveloPe - CFLOP. To mint a new term...

And seemingly very high speed.
I guess it had full suite of FDR ?