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Piper_Driver 5th Sep 2022 14:46

DH3 Otter Sept 4, 2022
 
An Otter float plane has crashed in Puget Sound north of Seattle with 10 persons aboard. Looks like no survivors. Cause unclear at this time.

Otter crash

treadigraph 5th Sep 2022 14:54

https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=20220904-1

Diamond Bob 5th Sep 2022 18:50

Could have been weather related
 
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...pdate-15356684


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1e95f97dd3.jpg

Diamond Bob 5th Sep 2022 19:20

Plane could have been caught in turbulence or even a microburst that could have directly caused the crash or caused structural breakup. Plane was 55 years old and operated in salt water conditions.

tdracer 5th Sep 2022 19:31

Search for the missing 9 people officially suspended.

Maoraigh1 6th Sep 2022 19:10

"An inexperienced seaplane passenger" being concerned about turbulence while "the pilot looked relaxed" and "other passengers were calm" does not indicate severe turbulence.

Piper_Driver 6th Sep 2022 19:46

Looks like relatives of a Broadway and television actress are among the dead. Condolences to all involved.

Megan Hilty relatives dead

Liffy 1M 6th Sep 2022 22:20

Though there is no physical evidence yet available, here is one possible scenario, as set out by Dan Gryder.

TowerDog 6th Sep 2022 23:01

According to Flight Radar the plane came down at almost 8,000 feet per minute, from 1,500 feet that would be about 12 seconds.
IF that is the case something important must have fallen off the Otter.
I flew seaplanes in salt water, didn't like it a bit, quit after 6 months.

RatherBeFlying 6th Sep 2022 23:58

If I was an Otter operator, I'd be having a very close look at the pitch trim and elevator linkages.

NTSB will likely pull it up to have a close look for missing and broken pieces in the control runs. I don't know about the water depth, but there's considerable tidal currents that will complicate and likely prolong salvage.

tdracer 7th Sep 2022 02:13


Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying (Post 11292123)
NTSB will likely pull it up to have a close look for missing and broken pieces in the control runs. I don't know about the water depth, but there's considerable tidal currents that will complicate and likely prolong salvage.

Given that witnesses say the aircraft pretty much dove into the water at speed, it may be tricky determining what broke before it hit the water vs. impact damage. Especially after it's been sitting on the bottom of Puget Sound for a while.

DaveReidUK 7th Sep 2022 09:01

NTSB media briefing today 18:30 PDT.

tdracer 15th Sep 2022 22:21

It's being reported that the wreckage has been located in ~190 ft. of water. Conditions are rather nasty - 3 to 5 knot current, with poor visibility. At least for the time being they plan to do the recover with remotely operated equipment.

tdracer 30th Sep 2022 03:19

Recovery underway - reportedly ~80% of the wreckage (and some bodies) recovered.

Bodies, majority of wreckage recovered from Whidbey Island plane crash | The Seattle Times

RatherBeFlying 9th Oct 2022 22:59


FAA Issues Emergency AD for de Havilland OttersThe airworthiness directive focuses on cracks in the elevator auxiliary spar.
Flying Magazine

India Four Two 10th Oct 2022 19:13

AD can be downloaded here:

https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExte...lOpened%3Dtrue

Inspection required within 10 hours or three days.

This Emergency AD was prompted by multiple recent reports of cracks in the left-hand
elevator auxiliary spar
I wonder why inspection of the right-hand elevator is not required.

megan 11th Oct 2022 07:18

The left elevator has a trim tab that moves dependent on flap selection, connected mechanically to the flaps, normal pitch trim is by means of the usual hand wheel that alters tailplane incidence.

India Four Two 11th Oct 2022 17:26

An interesting review of Otter loss-of-control accidents:

https://www.aviationlawgroup.com/ott...tch-movements/

The article states that the elevator tabs are servo tabs.

I've found a copy of the POH online and it confirms Megan's observation that the left "trim" tab is adjusted during flap selection. The POH does not specifically mention that the tabs are servo tabs, except in a "walk-around" illustration.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....32051427a6.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....370a4ad621.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....29119a2624.png


https://www.manualslib.com/manual/12...c-3-Otter.html

India Four Two 12th Oct 2022 15:17

Well done Aviation Week! :ugh:


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ca973cd22.jpeg


https://aviationweek.com/business-av...d-dhc-3-otters

punkalouver 12th Oct 2022 17:59


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 11312313)

Typical for mainstream media, embarrassing for a magazine like Aviation Week. Based on their publication coverage, I suspect they have new, fashionable hiring practices that lead to this. Not so bad when it is a picture in an airplane magazine, how do you like it for your pilots.

Ask Atlas Air about their Houston 767 crash.


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