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uxb99 16th Aug 2022 19:47


Originally Posted by WB627 (Post 11279385)
I understand there is a bit of a shortage of main spars and they are unlikely to make any more due to the alloy used no longer being produced.

Does that make the Hurricane a lot harder to restore than the Spitfire?

GeeRam 17th Aug 2022 07:20


Originally Posted by uxb99 (Post 11279654)
Does that make the Hurricane a lot harder to restore than the Spitfire?

Yes, very much so.

While the stress skin all metal construction of the Spitfire meant that in 1939/40 it was slower to build, and harder to BDR in the field as it was new tech of the day, compared to the more traditional construction of the Hurricane, today the opposite is true, and Hurricane restoration is very labour time consuming, so much more expensive to restore, as that technology had largely disappeared when Hawker Restorations started up their Hurricane 'production line' 30+ years ago.

treadigraph 17th Aug 2022 08:27

uxb99 , there's a little bit about it here...

https://hawkerrestorations.co.uk/

uxb99 17th Aug 2022 12:51


Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 11279860)
Yes, very much so.

While the stress skin all metal construction of the Spitfire meant that in 1939/40 it was slower to build, and harder to BDR in the field as it was new tech of the day, compared to the more traditional construction of the Hurricane, today the opposite is true, and Hurricane restoration is very labour time consuming, so much more expensive to restore, as that technology had largely disappeared when Hawker Restorations started up their Hurricane 'production line' 30+ years ago.

Interesting. I had always assumed the reverse was true.

megan 18th Aug 2022 01:27

An article "Series Construction of the Hurricane I: A Review of the Methods of Hawker Aircraft Ltd." is available for purchase here for £27.00.

https://www.emerald.com/insight/cont...30440/full/htm

Spar boom detail, Hurricane top, Spitfire lower.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a584a0fc88.png

Pilot DAR 18th Aug 2022 02:38

Just to be clear, each of the forgoing depictions is one of two elements of the respective spars, understanding that each whole spar has a web between the upper and lower spar caps, which is what is depicted. Both are difficult to reproduce these days. I had occasion many years back to support the rebuild design approval of another English WW2 type. I reminded myself that the aircraft manufacturers of WW2 worked with what they had, and, were making aircraft for material effective, agile, short lived fighting service, rather than longevity, nor major rebuild ease. Military aircraft, particularly wartime designs, do not have to abide by today's commercial efficiencies!

megan 18th Aug 2022 06:39


Just to be clear, each of the forgoing depictions is one of two elements of the respective spars, understanding that each whole spar has a web between the upper and lower spar caps
As DAR says, the pic shows the complete Spitfire spar assembly, how the spar booms/caps are nested, and then when attached to the vertical web.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....955900d53a.png


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