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N707ZS 25th Jul 2020 16:25

Germany. light aircraft crashes under parachute, mistaken for balloon
 
Sadly it sounds like no survivors from the aircraft and no mention of the balloon pilot

https://www.swanseasound.co.uk/news/...say-witnesses/

atakacs 25th Jul 2020 16:37

Obviously don't know the specifics but shouldn't be that hard to take evasive action from a hot-air balloon 🤔

BDAttitude 25th Jul 2020 16:58

Local newspaper reports, that the chute was pulled.
Wouldn‘t be suprised if that turns out to be the hot air balloon.
Weather wasn‘t quite that great for driving balloons as well.
Apparently three dead. So one casualty from the house hit.

Pugilistic Animus 25th Jul 2020 17:00

That's why in the US free hot air balloons have the right of way over all other aircraft... I don't think that I could handle being in a balloon.

ShotOne 25th Jul 2020 18:11

...and everywhere else !

atakacs 25th Jul 2020 19:26


Originally Posted by BDAttitude (Post 10846081)
Local newspaper reports, that the chute was pulled.
Wouldn‘t be suprised if that turns out to be the hot air balloon.

Chute pulled from the hot air balloon ?? What sequence of events do you envision ?

treadigraph 25th Jul 2020 19:33

I think BDAttitude envisions the "hot air balloon" was actually the BRS chute, perhaps triggered too late to save those who died, or by the impact.

BDAttitude 25th Jul 2020 19:45


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10846182)
I think BDAttitude envisions the "hot air balloon" was actually the BRS chute, perhaps triggered too late to save those who died, or by the impact.

:ok: Thanks!
Pedestrians and the press .... gotta love'em.

Pugilistic Animus 25th Jul 2020 21:03

BRS... now I get it...
They cite a pilot and a Copilot.... probably not knowing that an SEL plane doesn't require a Copilot

c52 25th Jul 2020 21:13

The local press reports that the aircraft was a "TL 98" and there was no collision with a balloon. https://rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/wes...t_aid-52395373

atakacs 25th Jul 2020 21:41

Aha - an ultralight with a BRS chute - ok that makes more sense !

gearlever 25th Jul 2020 22:05

Here the headline says it was a glider.....

Jeez

Großeinsatz: Segelflugzeug stürzt auf Wohnhaus – drei Tote

vanHorck 25th Jul 2020 22:27

The article in the body speaks of an ultralight. Also that it apparently broke up in flight, that pieces were found away from the crash site.

DaveReidUK 25th Jul 2020 22:35


Originally Posted by c52 (Post 10846251)
The local press reports that the aircraft was a "TL 98" and there was no collision with a balloon.

TL 96 Star (Rotax-powered Czech ultralight).

Pugilistic Animus 26th Jul 2020 06:47

That BRS seems to cause more problems than it fixes...plus it encourages some pilots to do stupid things. Aviation is going to pot!

Maoraigh1 26th Jul 2020 22:02

If it broke up in flight as stated, a parachute is the only hope.

evil7 29th Jul 2020 20:20


Originally Posted by Maoraigh1 (Post 10846995)
If it broke up in flight as stated, a parachute is the only hope.

Or it broke up because of the parachute - maybe it deployed in cruise flight unintentionally?!
Only speculation, though.

rnzoli 30th Jul 2020 10:30

When it comes to speculations, a strong contender is always the late deployment of the BRS.

Duchess_Driver 30th Jul 2020 18:51


That BRS seems to cause more problems than it fixes...plus it encourages some pilots to do stupid things. Aviation is going to pot!
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Interesting POV... based on?

Ask the 70 odd Cirrus “Saves” their opinion.

BRS deployments inside their design parameters is surely a step in the right direction to making aviation safer all round.

Jonzarno 30th Jul 2020 21:44


Originally Posted by rnzoli (Post 10849445)
When it comes to speculations, a strong contender is always the late deployment of the BRS.

That sounds plausible: the picture of the damage to the apartment suggests impact at a speed quite a bit higher than would be likely under a properly deployed chute, especially given the relatively small size / weight of the aircraft involved.


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