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WillFlyForCheese 30th Jun 2019 22:54

Twin engine plane into hangar in Addison, Texas, at least 10 dead
 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/addison...ay-2019-06-30/

“A small passenger plane crashed into an unoccupied hanger in Addison, Texas on Sunday morning. CBS Dallas reports that at least 10 people have died from the crash. It's unclear how many people in total were aboard the aircraft.“

Airbubba 30th Jun 2019 23:16

N534FF.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N534FF

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n534ff

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ka...2019-1400Z.mp3

AviationDB - Aviation Database - Aircraft N534FF

Hotel Tango 30th Jun 2019 23:18

Sad news, but you would think that CBS would know the difference between a hanger and a hangar!

pattern_is_full 1st Jul 2019 03:30

A rough nine days for turbo-twins... :(

Kulwin Park 1st Jul 2019 04:37

Just by reading the initial witness reports in that article, it sounds like it could be similar to the King Air crash in Australia https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/591237-king-air-down-essendon.html?highlight=essendon

rich34glider 1st Jul 2019 06:18

That was my first thought too ... time will tell.

Sunamer 1st Jul 2019 07:28


Originally Posted by Hotel Tango (Post 10506593)
Sad news, but you would think that CBS would know the difference between a hanger and a hangar!

Curb your expectations - this is CBS after all...

beamender99 1st Jul 2019 08:25


Curb your expectations - this is CBS after all...
Cut n paste ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48821328

Texas plane crash: 10 killed after "aircraft veers into hangar

DaveReidUK 1st Jul 2019 09:25

N534FF is a previous identity for the aircraft in question, which was re-registered N511EF in April though some of the flight-trackers don't seem to have caught up yet.

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...mbertxt=N511EF

7AC 1st Jul 2019 09:31

I think this is the first fatal accident of a King Air 350.
They are truly fine aeroplanes so it will be interesting to see what happened.

DaveReidUK 1st Jul 2019 09:58


Originally Posted by 7AC (Post 10506808)
I think this is the first fatal accident of a King Air 350.

First in the USA.

There have been fatal B350 accidents in Germany (2006), Brazil (2009) and Chile (2012).

Airbubba 1st Jul 2019 13:14


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10506803)
N534FF is a previous identity for the aircraft in question, which was re-registered N511EF in April though some of the flight-trackers don't seem to have caught up yet.

The folks flying the plane hadn't caught up either in the LiveATC link above. "Tower, 534 Fox Fox ready to go runway 15."

Airbubba 1st Jul 2019 14:22

Video of the Sunday night NTSB media update, the uncertainty on the tail number is mentioned since the aircraft "recently changed hands".

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Ra...512040712.html

4listair 1st Jul 2019 22:21

NTSB July 1st Update: Part 91 Operation
 
NTSB Monday July 1st Presser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aet2JEyvAoQ

NTSB B-Roll Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxnzK7WWEo

FAA Part 91 Operation forms part of the investigation. CVR being analysed in Washington DC.

(Audience member witness suggested that the flight profile resembled a stall-spin.)

DaveReidUK 1st Jul 2019 22:33

I'd be surprised if that F900 ever flies again.

Airbubba 1st Jul 2019 23:04

Three pictures released today by the NTSB (but the picture with a view inside the hangar is not the one displayed at the briefing).


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e760e49a86.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7721624ae6.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e1117ce370.jpg

Raffles S.A. 2nd Jul 2019 14:50


Originally Posted by Kulwin Park (Post 10506661)
Just by reading the initial witness reports in that article, it sounds like it could be similar to the King Air crash in Australia https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/591237-king-air-down-essendon.html?highlight=essendon

How about the one at Wichita, crashed into the simulator building?

20driver 2nd Jul 2019 15:06

King Air vs PC-12
 
People I worked for purchased a King Air 200 3 years back and love it. They were adamant on a twin for safety when I suggested a PC-12. I did not get into the whole single versus twin things with them. They own the company and have managed quite well without my advice.
Assuming we are dealing with an engine failure here a single would have been "safer". Half the chance of having the failure in the first place. If you do have one at takeoff, a much better chance of a controlled return to earth. Land straight ahead and fly the plane and you very likely walk away.
The Wichita crash mentioned above, if it is the one I read about, involved a highly regarded instructor. I think that plane was just out of maintenance. Clearly EFATO is a very demanding and dangerous situation.
Sad day for all involved. I enjoy flying private but it is not without its risks.

bill fly 2nd Jul 2019 15:51



Erm - half the chance of engine failure - but twice the chance of losing it all when it happens.
I know what you mean - VMCA handling problems need regular training.

Twiglet1 2nd Jul 2019 15:57

Is the King Air 350 Perf A or B?


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