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From the Sun so I have no way to verify whether this is true or not. “Mr Ibbotson belonged to three “ferry flight” Facebook groups where companies advertise flying jobs and had worked for Mr McKay before using the same plane. He flew Nice FC general manager Julien Fournier from Surrey to the French port of Marseille in the single-engined US-registered Piper last year. A source said: “Pilots are offered cash, airline tickets and hotel rooms in exchange for flying brand new aircraft to customers, or flying customers.” |
Originally Posted by mikebrant
(Post 10369876)
I’m not sure I am following you here: there is only one person in charge and it’s the pilot. He can always say “no”. Also I would be interested to know more about the second, much more experienced pilot, that alledgedely decided to not go with them at the last minute (after passing Nantes’ airport controls.) |
Originally Posted by mikebrant
(Post 10369876)
I’m not sure I am following you here: there is only one person in charge and it’s the pilot. He can always say “no”. Also I would be interested to know more about the second, much more experienced pilot, that alledgedely decided to not go with them at the last minute (after passing Nantes’ airport controls.) |
Reading comments on this thread about people failing to find themselves or people they know on the FAA database, I decided to look myself up. Not there apparently. After a bit of experimentation I discovered that if I removed all of the search terms except my name the entry came up. Did bring to my attention the fact that the FAA certificate is linked to a UK licence number which is not the one I have now. Not sure what I have to do about that but I will wait until after Brexit before bothering to find out!
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Originally Posted by ea200
(Post 10369958)
Reading comments on this thread about people failing to find themselves or people they know on the FAA database
On April 5, 2000, the Wendell H. Ford Aviation Investment and Reform Act for the 21st Century became Public Law 106-181. Section 715 of that law requires the Federal Aviation Administration to release names, addresses, and ratings information for all airmen after the 120th day following the date of enactment. The law also requires that the airmen be given an opportunity to elect that their address information be withheld from release under this law. Accordingly, the FAA sent letters to all active airmen informing them of the provisions of the law, and giving them the option to withhold their address information. The FAA will be continuing this procedure for airmen who become active. Responses from the letters have been processed. This file contains the names, addresses, and certificate information of those airmen who did not respond to indicate that they wished to withhold their address information. |
Originally Posted by vintage ATCO
(Post 10369839)
The last visibility Hill was given for Elstree was 800m with no instrument let down .
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I humbly beg to differ. Painful as it may be, apart from cavalier attitudes to keeping their ratings current (they weren't), the main issues in both the the Colin McCrae and Graham Hill incidents were two pilots who had higher opinions of their skills than they, in truth, had. This caused their deaths and those of eight innocent members of the public flying with them. |
Originally Posted by ea200
(Post 10369958)
Did bring to my attention the fact that the FAA certificate is linked to a UK licence number which is not the one I have now. Not sure what I have to do about that but I will wait until after Brexit before bothering to find out!
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The pilot was 60 years old. So wouldn't have been allowed to do commercial single pilot ops under EASA regs.
I won't post a picture of the pilot, but he doesn't look as if he is in the prime of health for his age. |
Hill’s FAA IR had lapsed, so had his UK IMC rating; his UK PPL was still valid. The aeroplane’s US registration had been cancelled three years previously; it was unregistered and stateless. ...he (Damon Hill) and his mother and two sisters were to discover that, because important documents had not been kept in order, the insurance policies were invalid. The consequences effectively ruined them... It is for this reason amongst several others, that I believe the time is right for a far more transparent, clear, consistent and effectively policed compliance regime in all aspects of GA flying that involves the carriage of passengers. Period. |
Originally Posted by Ninja as
(Post 10369862)
I stand to be corrected but there is more than ATC radar cover in this area especially with the sensitivity of a nuclear power plant on the coast. Standing by! Anyway to locate a small aircraft in the sea with accuracy is very difficult , even when you know precisely where it went down . A Cessna 206 went down 10 years back taking off from Ajaccio Corsica only a few miles from the coast in daytime, SAR had the exact position the a/c went down , the pax were in a small dinghy , helicopter was on site within minutes but it took them over 7 hours to find them. In fact they only found them when it was night , using IR googles , one pilot spotted the small lamp of one pax life vest ! . The sea was rough. The PIC, was an AF 777 pilot with is wife and parents on board, ,he wrote a few years ago a very good detailed article about it in an aviation magazine in France . Some info here just found on internet for those interested : ( in french ) :. C206 ajaccio 2009 |
Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 10370135)
In fact they only found them when it was night , using IR googles , one pilot spotted the small lamp of one pax life vest !
Les militaires et les gendarmes, qui ont des lunettes infrarouges, ont pu nous repérer [dans la nuit] grâce aux taches de chaleur. And with reference to my own question about CI flying practices, further up, a PPL acquaintance writes: It's perfectly possible for a small flying club to also run a private charter business using beaten up 4 seaters and as a way of building hours for recently qualified commercial pilots. But they still need an AOC and the plane still needs to be flown by someone with a CPL minimum. * |
Whats all this talk on insurance? Considered we talk of a young soccer player just changing club for a whopping £15m, a law engagement if started will be in the 10 years lost income compensation scheme and well in the three digit £XXXm region. So, if there was something wrong that way, the widow and family of the pilot are doomed.
Please let us focus here on the pilotty thingies! |
Originally Posted by Eutychus
(Post 10370149)
Just a minor detail, the article says they were found thanks to thermal IR detection.
Erm...what other kind of IR detection do you think there is?? PDR |
Originally Posted by PDR1
(Post 10370157)
Erm...what other kind of IR detection do you think there is??
PDR
Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 10370135)
In fact they only found them when it was night , using IR googles , one pilot spotted the small lamp of one pax life vest !
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So how prevalent is this type of flying , possibly bypassing the safeguards afforded by an AOC holder. The Jersey Aero Club public Facebook page has a post from January 21st inviting someone to “ QUOTE ( a price) ” to transport a person from the Southampton area to Jersey on a certain date in March to “avoid” the need to fly from LGW. Or is this perfectly acceptable under cost sharing rules and is effectively a Wingly type of service being offered but where the potential customer has no knowledge of the Pilots ability or experience? |
Originally Posted by ChickenHouse
(Post 10370154)
Whats all this talk on insurance? Considered we talk of a young soccer player just changing club for a whopping £15m, a law engagement if started will be in the 10 years lost income compensation scheme and well in the three digit £XXXm region. So, if there was something wrong that way, the widow and family of the pilot are doomed.
It may be that insurance cover from the club has not yet started as the player seems to have not yet started training. It maybe that anyway such cover is conditional on certain higher risk activities and sports not being carried out. I know one of such policy banning the individual from skiing. I'm sure we will discover that in reality the pilot was deep in debt and that his estate is insolvent - so all those who think they can get any money out of the deceased pilot's estate will be told to Go Whistle Dixie/Foxtrot Oscar. |
Originally Posted by Flap 80
(Post 10370178)
Or is this perfectly acceptable under cost sharing rules and is effectively a Wingly type of service being offered but where the potential customer has no knowledge of the Pilots ability or experience?
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Originally Posted by dsc810
(Post 10370188)
It will all depend on many things as to whether the cover is valid.
It may be that insurance cover from the club has not yet started as the player seems to have not yet started training. It maybe that anyway such cover is conditional on certain higher risk activities and sports not being carried out. I know one of such policy banning the individual from skiing. I'm sure we will discover that in reality the pilot was deep in debt and that his estate is insolvent - so all those who think they can get any money out of the deceased pilot's estate will be told to Go Whistle Dixie/Foxtrot Oscar. I suspect the reality, if ever revealed, may shock us all. Somebody named similar a while ago on another unrelated issue 'walking accident to happen'. |
Originally Posted by ChickenHouse
(Post 10370189)
The European way to let grey areas slip through law enforcement and accept an economy based on 'networking', formerly known as corruption, is legendary. No, I do not find it acceptable to wreck the economical basis of trade by allowing private efforts slip underneath the legal layer agreed. What is called 'sharing society', formerly known as barter trading before the invention of money, is a huge step backwards in history. There is nothing wrong in favor among friends and neighbors, but that is always based on personal connection. Go a 'Wingly type of service' is trying to de-personalize personal relation, replacing friendship by artificial 'friendship'. It may be another world, but it is definitely not mine.
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