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WillFlyForCheese 14th Oct 2018 16:08

Three dead as plane crashes into crowd in Germany
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world...mpression=true

At least three people have died after a small plane crashed in the central German state of Hesse, reports say.

A small Cessna aircraft hit a group of people clustered by an airfield on Wasserkuppe mountain near Fulda at around 15:45 local time (13:45 GMT).

Reports quoting police say two adults and a child were killed in the crash, and eight more were injured.

The plane was reportedly trying to gain height after a failed landing.

The weather was reportedly fair at the time of the crash.



Katamarino 14th Oct 2018 16:49

2018/10/14 - C172 in central Germany
 
This is very sad...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45858270


A small plane has crashed in the central Germany, killing three people.

The single-engine Cessna hit a group of people clustered by an airfield on Wasserkuppe mountain near the town of Fulda in Hesse state on Sunday.

The plane was reportedly trying to gain height after a failed landing and crashed through an airport fence at about 15:45 (13:45 GMT).

Wizofoz 14th Oct 2018 21:17

Out of interest, what is the elevation there?

C172- 4 POB- High altitude...…..

nicolai 14th Oct 2018 21:25

2958 feet / 902m MSL

krohmie 16th Oct 2018 16:49

Going around uphill 29m difference between threshold and end of runway.
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The 3 people (mother with two kids) were on a pedestrian path aprox 120 meters behind the runway.
Between path and runway is a public road.

Landing on 24 in the end of the video, while taxiing you see car on the road.


Alpine Flyer 16th Oct 2018 21:47

Bad news. Wasserkuppe is a place with historic significance, one of the birthplaces of German aviation and one of the first places people flew gliders.

Less Hair 17th Oct 2018 07:17

Single engine Cessna with four men onboard doing some uphill go around on an tricky hillside.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 17th Oct 2018 22:18

All very sad and an interesting video. May I ask a question not related to the incident?

I was always taught that when you move the controls to do a full and free movement check you actually look out the window to see that things are going in the right direction as you do so. was I over-taught or does that young lady just go through the motions.
thanks
SWB

rich34glider 18th Oct 2018 07:10


Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY (Post 10285842)
All very sad and an interesting video. May I ask a question not related to the incident?

I was always taught that when you move the controls to do a full and free movement check you actually look out the window to see that things are going in the right direction as you do so. was I over-taught or does that young lady just go through the motions.
thanks
SWB

You would do that during the pre-flight .. last-minute check is for full & free movement.

India Four Two 18th Oct 2018 07:13

SWB,

I fly a C182 glider towplane. My SOP is to do a careful control check on the first flight of the day, including checking that the control surfaces move in the correct sense. On subsequent flights, I just do a check that the yoke moves freely to its limits, to make sure that nothing has jammed the controls.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 18th Oct 2018 14:25

Thank you both.

megan 19th Oct 2018 02:12

Always checked visually the control bits outside moved as they should, too many professionals, even test pilots, have been killed because ailerons operated in the reverse sense. Roy Chadwick, designer of the Lancaster, was killed in the crash of the Tudor during take off following overnight maintenance on the ailerons and controls were reversed.

Duchess_Driver 20th Oct 2018 17:01

As has been said, pre take off vital action is full and free movement to check no foreign object has been dislodged and now jams the control linkage.

Walkround check on on an aircraft without powered controls I move the control and see that the column moves in the way I expect and does not require excessive force to be moved.


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