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Dan Winterland 16th Sep 2018 10:57


GA is a bit tougher when the ac senses ground mode. Probably hit TOGA, and it took a few seconds to figure out they had to advance thrust manually......
Thrust management on a baulked landing is identical to a GA.on an Airbus. Much more intuitive than a Boeing.

Nightstop 16th Sep 2018 19:11

This looks like a severe hard landing outcome following a bounce on A320’s fitted with pre SEC (Spoiler Elevator Computer) Modification standard. On aircraft with the old SEC, if the aircraft is landed without reducing the Thrust Levers to IDLE in the flare (i.e. Thrust Levers still in the CLB detent), the aircraft will likely bounce without Ground Spoiler extension. The bounce being caused by too high energy level and lack of lift destruction. If, during the first bounce, the Thrust Levers are then moved towards the IDLE position within 3 seconds of the initial touchdown, the Ground Spoilers will extend FULLY. That leads to a sudden loss of lift and results in the hard landing on the second touchdown. G force on the second touchdown is typically in the region of 3.2G
On aircraft with the SEC modification only PARTIAL ground spoiler extension will occur in the above scenario. The second touchdown G force is now typically in the region of 1.7G. In addition, the number and amplitude of bounces is reduced with the new SEC standard.
Which SEC standard was fitted here I wonder?

Check Airman 6th Apr 2019 09:41

A320 windshear and nosewheel touchdown
 
Interesting read on avherald

Accident: Capital Beijing A320 at Macau on Aug 28th 2018, dropped nose wheels on hard touchdown (3.406G)

ScepticalOptomist 10th Apr 2019 08:44

That could’ve ended very badly. They were lucky.

Judd 25th Aug 2020 11:44

An astonishing landing. You couldn't make that up if you tried
 
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/...d767-276530305

DaveReidUK 25th Aug 2020 18:35

I'm not sure why this old thread has been resurrected, but now we're here and in case anyone is wondering (there's no mention in either the Skybrary or Avherald reports), the aircraft never flew again.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....321dec746a.jpg

atakacs 25th Aug 2020 18:52


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10870409)
I'm not sure why this old thread has been resurrected, but now we're here and in case anyone is wondering (there's no mention in either the Skybrary or Avherald reports), the aircraft never flew again.

What about the pilots?!


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