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Pali 30th May 2018 10:33

L-29 close call at air show
 
Happens again and again, this time lucky outcome:


Momoe 30th May 2018 10:56

Pass me my brown trousers Hoskins!

treadigraph 30th May 2018 11:01

Seven years ago that one, thought it looked familiar! Very lucky indeed...!

Genghis the Engineer 30th May 2018 18:42

Strikes me that he was behind the aeroplane from the moment there was air under the tyres: entering an aerobatic manoeuvre without remembering to raise the gear, and then a steep dive with inadequate height to pull out, and taking the aeroplane fairly heavily into pre-stall wing rock close to the ground as a result probably should have called it a day in the first 10 seconds of the flight.

Lucky? Very given his apparent determination to break the aeroplane.

G

dead_pan 3rd Jun 2018 06:46

Are we sure this isn't an RC model?? Performance looks a bit sporty for an actual L29 with the gear down

Pilot DAR 3rd Jun 2018 11:30

If it's a model, it sure has realistic sound! I suspect that sporty performance came at the cost of a margin of safety....

rjtjrt 3rd Jun 2018 11:50

Looks like a model to me.

rnzoli 3rd Jun 2018 12:06

This toy definietely exists in full size with same color scheme and registration mark. The event happened back in 2005, during an airshow in Sliac, Slovakia.
https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/full_si...0240-large.jpg

Concours77 13th Jun 2018 17:02

Was that a “launch” or a low pass? If a takeoff, the runway must have been four miles long, awful lot of velocity for a TO. Maybe that is what makes the a/c look “sporty”?

Jetscream 32 15th Jun 2018 15:59

I'm with Genghis, forgot to get gear up and then it all goes wrong as none of the limited performance that he was expecting was there..... very much a "close enough" continue with the manoeuvre - it almost bit him / her!

IcePaq 24th Jun 2018 20:49

Saved by ground effect?

givdrvr 27th Jun 2018 00:24

Not an RC model..here is the another vid of the OM-JET taxiing out
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Runaway Gun 27th Jun 2018 09:10

Was the pilot making this routine up as he went along? Pull up off the deck (gear down), bit of a roll, then a half roll and pull through. There was never going to be enough air...

flash8 5th Aug 2018 23:14

The huge problem is the barrier to entry is so low.

Around 2007 I was going to buy a 1/10 share in an L-29 (dirt cheap) in the UK, monthly costs were in the hundreds, can't recall the per hour but it was entirely manageable. Back then they only required a PPL with something like 200TT SEP... very low requirements and a few hours or so conversion on type.

In the end I decided I simply didn't think I'd have the aptitude (and this was with a CPL/IR and 737 time) and wouldn't actually be moving back to the UK, didn't want to end up in a smokey hole also, and gave it a miss. But it always struck me as scary how little was required.

I'd hate to think the same for the L-39 which would probably be a serious handful on par with the Hawk.

Dan Winterland 6th Aug 2018 04:25

Unsafe routine with too many threats. Lots of wing rock in the pull out, he was at max alpha and very lucky to survive this.


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