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kevkdg 20th Jul 2014 18:58

Jodel Accident at Full Sutton - No one hurt luckily
 
Lucky escape as light aircraft crashes at Full Sutton (From York Press)

thing 20th Jul 2014 19:11

Looks good to me. Two walking talking after what I speculate is a donk failure. Well done the pilot.

ETOPS 20th Jul 2014 19:45


what I speculate is a donk failure
Looking at the photo I wonder if there might be another reason :hmm:

magpienja 20th Jul 2014 20:31

Yes looking at the prop...it appears the motor was running...but how well is another story.

Maoraigh1 20th Jul 2014 20:32


when their two seater plane failed to take off from Full Sutton airfield.
Both prop blades are damaged, so engine was turning. Density altitude? Mogas vapour lock leading to loss of power? Carb ice (humid warm air within the carb ice range)?
I'm certain it wasn't a nose wheel collapse on the take-off run.:E

surely not 20th Jul 2014 20:45

I am intrigued that the aircraft 'ditched' into a field :ooh::}

Maybe with the higher temperatures, weight and balance became an issue? I am sure ETOPS was suggesting a similar idea :)

Above The Clouds 20th Jul 2014 20:50

Two big blokes, cockpit stuffed full of luggage / equipment, one case on the wing were did that fit :eek: only saying :uhoh:

tomboo 20th Jul 2014 21:05

That propellor is never large enough to make that plane fly.... What they needed was a bigger one..

thing 20th Jul 2014 21:30


Looking at the photo I wonder if there might be another reason
Good spot, didn't really look at the photo closely, just assumed EFATO. Still, whatever the reason, two guys walking which is good.

Lone_Ranger 20th Jul 2014 21:49

ETOPS combined with the temperature I think you have a point, they might have just gotten away with in the past at 16 degrees, might not work at 26

Glad they are ok

'Chuffer' Dandridge 21st Jul 2014 17:53

Would love to have seen the W&B calcs for that trip. I have a Jodel, very similar to the 120 shown here and 2 fat blokes on board = no luggage and only max 3/4 tanks:sad:

snapper1 21st Jul 2014 18:03

All speculation.
What is known is that these two are very experienced aviators - based in the local area.

Sir George Cayley 21st Jul 2014 18:47

Word to the wise.

After surviving a death dive, steered away from schools, hospitals and puppy farms then pancaked into a farmers field - don't pose for the local press:ok:

Being local and experienced doesn't inure you from pranging.

SGC

maxred 21st Jul 2014 19:52

It would appear to be surprising that the pair actually fitted in. Everything but the kitchen sink crammed in there.

They may regret that photo. Ah, and the mysterious, three inch prop...

Katamarino 21st Jul 2014 19:58

"Very experienced" does not automatically mean competent. It might mean that someone has just been flying in their same little patch for decades without learning anything new.

snapper1 21st Jul 2014 20:01

Well, Sir George, I guess you should know. Brompton Dale wasn't it? Oh no, that was your coachman.:)

Airclues 21st Jul 2014 20:42

It's fifteen years since I flew a Jodel 120. From memory the empty weight was 340kg, the max AUW was 620kg and the fuel capacity was 120lt. Can anyone with more recent knowledge confirm these figures.

Gertrude the Wombat 21st Jul 2014 21:29


don't pose for the local press
Depends how well known you are to the local press, mine would just use a stock photo if I didn't pose for them. And the one they usually use has me grinning like a maniac, so I might want to pose for something more appropriate to the occasion.

hoodie 21st Jul 2014 21:43

I've always understood that volume was not necessarily an indicator of mass.

But hey, why should any of that stop us slagging off fellow aviators after an undoubtedly traumatic experience? Do carry on.

flybymike 21st Jul 2014 23:02


I've always understood that volume was not necessarily an indicator of mass.
These were hollow people?


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