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Old 26th May 2024, 18:44
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Pilot bails from skydive aircraft

... but everyone survives???
Pilot 'parachutes out of crashing plane with six other passengers on board' | Daily Mail Online
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Old 26th May 2024, 19:07
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Typical Daily Fail.
ASN report:
A Cessna U206C Super Skywagon (Turbine Conversions Pratt Ltd Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-20 550 hp turbine conversion) experienced a Skydiver premature parachute deployment at 14,000 msl damaging the tail section. The pilot was able to parachute to safety after the six skydivers jumped out and the aircraft was destroyed. The plane crashed in a field east of Butler Memorial Airport (BUM/KBUM), Butler, Missouri. No injuries.
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Old 26th May 2024, 20:56
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Had to be. When you see the wreckage no one would have survived that!
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Old 26th May 2024, 21:18
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I guess the Daily Fail thought that "Pilot parachutes out of crashing plane once no remaining passengers on board" wouldn't generate as many clicks.
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Old 26th May 2024, 23:04
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
I guess the Daily Fail thought that "Pilot parachutes out of crashing plane once no remaining passengers on board" wouldn't generate as many clicks.
You think? Oh so typical of the Daily Fail & its borderline dishonesty.

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Old 27th May 2024, 03:04
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If i see daily mail on any article anywhere I move on straight away.
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Old 27th May 2024, 06:28
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Pilotbales out

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If I see daily mail on any article anywhere I move on straight away.

As a child, I used to read comics such as the Beano or the Dandy. In old age, the Daily Mail and the Yarmouth Mercury (Norfolk, where I grew up) now provide the equivalent entertainment.
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Old 27th May 2024, 06:39
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The headline is rubbish but the article does say:

"The six others on board were all skydivers and were all able to jump clear of the Cessna before it struck the ground.The pilot was the last once to leave the doomed plane. "
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Old 27th May 2024, 08:17
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Originally Posted by shinz0
You think? Oh so typical of the Daily Fail & its borderline dishonesty.
I think that was the point I was making ...
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Old 27th May 2024, 13:53
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I fixed the thread title, to be more accurate...

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Old 27th May 2024, 14:45
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We were talking about a very similar accident in Switzerland back in February. Sadly the pilot in that accident was not wearing a parachute & had no chance to escape.
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Old 27th May 2024, 22:32
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I think in the US the pilot of a jump plane is REQUIRED to wear a parachute.

Still, yes clickbait and a sensationalist headline.
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Originally Posted by cats_five
The headline is rubbish but the article does say:

"The six others on board were all skydivers and were all able to jump clear of the Cessna before it struck the ground.The pilot was the last once to leave the doomed plane. "
It did by the time you quoted from it, but a previous version of that paragraph was

"It is unclear whether the other passengers were also able to escape the Cessna before it struck the ground."

It's still badly edited, still containing them miraculously surviving a plane crash, when in fact they'd avoided being in it
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles
I think in the US the pilot of a jump plane is REQUIRED to wear a parachute.
I think the pilot-chute requirement "only" applies to flying with open doors/door modifications, but that obviously means it applies to a very large percentage of jump airplanes.

https://www.faasafety.gov/files/gsla...Operations.pdf
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Originally Posted by OldnGrounded
I think the pilot-chute requirement "only" applies to flying with open doors/door modifications, but that obviously means it applies to a very large percentage of jump airplanes.
Depends on what is specified in the approvals for jump door modifications, but yes many jump aircraft require it. Typically small Cessnas. Not necessarily for the larger turbine aircraft. Still everyone knows it is highly recommended. Occasionally a pilot in a large jump aircraft doesn't wear a parachute, but that tends to also be in aircraft with a higher tail, like a Twin Otter, or a Skyvan. (I don't know for sure for each particular aircraft & jump door STC; this is just my observation as a jumper.)
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The pilot is required to wear a 'chute in Canada too. I had to wear one when I flew jumpers, and it was quite uncomfortable in the Cessna seat! But I see the wisdom of the rule! I don't know if it gets relaxed for larger airplane sizes. I asked the jumpmaster once if their hitting the H stab (C185 & C206) was a risk. He told me that they try for fun. I asked him not to try! But, I have seen several photos of 182 H stabs which had been hit by a jumper, so it is obviously possible.
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The pilot is required to wear a 'chute in Canada too. I had to wear one when I flew jumpers, and it was quite uncomfortable in the Cessna seat! But I see the wisdom of the rule! I don't know if it gets relaxed for larger airplane sizes. I asked the jumpmaster once if their hitting the H stab (C185 & C206) was a risk. He told me ththey try for fun. I asked him not to try! But, I have seen several photos of 182 H stabs which had been hit by a jumper, so it is obviously possible.
Have you seen the pic of the UK C182, pilot and hapless jumper descending under the jumper's 'chute, the shrouds of which were wrapped round the tail? I've seen it but don't have it. Both survived, think it was early '70s...
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Old 28th May 2024, 15:21
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The rulemaking has tended to state that either turbine or multiengine A/C does’nt call for a chute for the diverdriver.

But a real risk analysis would look at the probability for a chute to entangle in, or rip of the stabilisator.
Number of engines or type of engines will not make a difference when you have lost the tailplane and are going down.
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Old 28th May 2024, 17:33
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Some things are a good idea whether required or not.
Wearing a parachute flying skydivers is certainly one of them.
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Old 29th May 2024, 08:28
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Here in Denmark there was an accident a few years ago where a jumper got his leg entangled in a safety belt or some sort of strap, and ended up being towed behind or under the aircraft. The pilot couldn't reach the belt-cutter tool on board, and couldn't leave his position to haul him back in. In the end, the fire brigade "lubricated" the entire runway with foam, after which they landed. Can't find the accident report now, but I remember that no serious injury was reported.
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