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Turbulence injures dozens on Hawaiian Airlines flight

Old 19th Dec 2022, 10:29
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Turbulence injures dozens on Hawaiian Airlines flight

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-...mpaign=KARANGA

https://news.sky.com/story/eleven-pe...light-12771050
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Old 19th Dec 2022, 13:44
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As one would expect in the cruise, neither the FR24 nor FlightAware plots are particularly detailed, but both are indicative of an eventful couple of minutes shortly before ToD.
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Old 19th Dec 2022, 13:47
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"She did not have the chance to do up her safety belt before she "flew up and hit the ceiling", Ms Reyes said."

I suspect that she may have had about 5 hours of opportunity.
Damned flight attendants. I bet they only mentioned "keeping your seat belt fastened" about five or six times.
Totally inadequate.

Lawyeeeeeeeeeeeer.................................!!!
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Old 19th Dec 2022, 13:59
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
"She did not have the chance to do up her safety belt before she "flew up and hit the ceiling", Ms Reyes said."

I suspect that she may have had about 5 hours of opportunity.
Damned flight attendants. I bet they only mentioned "keeping your seat belt fastened" about five or six times.
Totally inadequate.

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I believe the article stated that the passenger in question had just returned from the restroom
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Old 19th Dec 2022, 14:16
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
"She did not have the chance to do up her safety belt before she "flew up and hit the ceiling", Ms Reyes said."

I suspect that she may have had about 5 hours of opportunity.
That's a rather unkind and cynical partial quote from the article.

Here's what it actually said:

Passenger Kaylee Reyes told Hawaii News Now that her mother had just returned to her seat when the turbulence hit.

She did not have the chance to do up her safety belt before she "flew up and hit the ceiling", Ms Reyes said.
PHX-HNL gate-to-gate is about 6˝ hours - that's a long time to go without getting up for the occasional pee.
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I see the Beeb has finally got the right picture in their story - they originally had an A321 Neo!
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Every time there's an turbulence event we have to read the same old righteous comments from (some) posters. I have said countless times in past such threads that there will always be pax caught out by sheer bad luck. I am certainly one who keeps his seat belt on at all times except when I have to leave my seat to go to the restroom. For me that may be once on a 6.5 hour flight. There are however people with medical reasons to go more often. I know because my wife was, at one time, one. She may have needed to go four or five times on a flight of that duration. It stands to reason that with 260+ pax on board and the flight nearing its destination there were more than the average heading to and from the restroom. Yes, yes, there are for sure the odd few who fail to keep belts on during the cruise, but, from my own observations they are a small minority.
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Originally Posted by FUMR View Post
Every time there's an turbulence event we have to read the same old righteous comments from (some) posters. I have said countless times in past such threads that there will always be pax caught out by sheer bad luck. I am certainly one who keeps his seat belt on at all times except when I have to leave my seat to go to the restroom. For me that may be once on a 6.5 hour flight. There are however people with medical reasons to go more often. I know because my wife was, at one time, one. She may have needed to go four or five times on a flight of that duration. It stands to reason that with 260+ pax on board and the flight nearing its destination there were more than the average heading to and from the restroom. Yes, yes, there are for sure the odd few who fail to keep belts on during the cruise, but, from my own observations they are a small minority.
I still think the best cockpit announcement on this is the one that goes something like ...... And when we've reached our cruising altitude, I recommend you do what we do here on the flight deck, keep your seatbest fastened whenever you are in your seat.


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Old 20th Dec 2022, 11:29
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They’ll also make an announcement that goes something like this:
…blah blah blah we’ll be starting our descent shortly if you want to use the facilities do it now as the seatbelt sign will come on shortly blah blah blah….
So quite a few people may have been up an about.
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There are however people with medical reasons to go more often. I know because my wife was, at one time, one. She may have needed to go four or five times on a flight of that duration. It stands to reason that with 260+ pax on board and the flight nearing its destination there were more than the average heading to and from the restroom.
Ever since a procedure for prostate cancer ~6 years ago, I think I'm doing pretty well when I can go an hour between lav visits - especially if I'd had a few drinks. Heck, often the time between boarding and reaching an altitude where they unlock the lavs can present a rather unpleasant experience (yes, getting a decent night's sleep can be a challenge). So if the pilot had just announced TOD, there is a good chance I would have been one of those who headed to the lav...
How's they saying go - until you've walked a mile in a man's shoes...
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Keeping your seat belts fastened is clearly a good start but it’s not much help if meal trollies or bags or bottles go flying.
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I was returning from SAN to LAX on an American flight in the 1960's and watched the contents of a coffee pot and the F/A hit the ceiling and then land on me.
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Not sure where I got this idea or information. The only death on the 737 undershoot at Chuuk was a man not wearing a seatbelt during landing.
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