Stearman prang in Texas 2/10/21 - no injuries...
Gnome de PPRuNe
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Stearman prang in Texas 2/10/21 - no injuries...
Ummmm... take off from a highway in Winnie. just east of Houston. The aircraft had taken part in a street parade apparently. Ooops!
Gnome de PPRuNe
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I think the CAA would take a somewhat jaundiced view in the UK. However, I do know of a Rallye that force landed in a small meadow alongside the A30 in Devon many years ago. Whatever was troubling it was easily fixed but the field was unsuitable for take off, so it was craned over the wall and with suitable permission and the assistance of the local plod, it departed safely from the road.
Another video out there of a force landed C210 hitting something and ending up rather crumpled while attempting a take off from a US road some years ago.
Another video out there of a force landed C210 hitting something and ending up rather crumpled while attempting a take off from a US road some years ago.
If the Local Authority and the Police give permission for a road to be closed and a private aircraft to land and take-off from it, without pax, would the CAA's permission be required anywhere in the UK? Assuming the insurance was valid.
If it was a static display, not flying during the show, authorisation would appear not needed.
If it was a static display, not flying during the show, authorisation would appear not needed.
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In North America, sometimes roads are used, with official tolerance. I cannot comment this event, but an airplane on the road is not out of the question. It is certainly done in rural farming areas for crop duster operations.
Gnome de PPRuNe
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He appears to drift onto the median which looks a bit like one of those storm water ditches then hoicks it off - the first video the engine sounds pretty much on song to me.
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Well... Were I to speculate, I would suggest that the road was unusually narrow for the view expected by a back seat pilot in a Stearman. When he pitched up to rotate (perhaps a little underspeed), he also suffered a reduction in directional perception, so drifted left. The effort to get back on track both used up energy, and disoriented the pilot, so he tried to outclimb the wires with too little speed, and stalled over them.
Looking at the Facebook clip, initially all looks OK, but then it seems the pilot decided to abort the take off and the tail lowers, but then changed his mind and decides to continue. By then it was too late
Interesting - could the sudden yaw before becoming airborne suggest a power failure ?
The propeller theory related to this accident will most likely be quoted in tail dragger lessons for years to come.
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I suggest everyone watches the video that Megan posted.
Lots of good information from a well respected pilot.
The most obvious comment made in that video was "could have just towed the aircraft the 3 miles to the airport" which really sums up the accident.
Why attempt a difficult or dangerous takeoff from a road when you could have just towed it?
As Scott says "If it's difficult, dangerous or different" then don't do it.
Lots of good information from a well respected pilot.
The most obvious comment made in that video was "could have just towed the aircraft the 3 miles to the airport" which really sums up the accident.
Why attempt a difficult or dangerous takeoff from a road when you could have just towed it?
As Scott says "If it's difficult, dangerous or different" then don't do it.
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Originally Posted by munnst
Why attempt a difficult or dangerous takeoff from a road when you could have just towed it?
