Bonanza hits car in Florida

[piesupper]

https://on.rt.com/b3ua

[rnzoli]

I was expecting an annoying taxiing accident or an emergency landing on a street with some bent metal.
But the airplane was out of control, clipping wires and poles before crashing onto a moving car.
2 aircraft occupants perished, car occupants in hospital with serious-critical conditions.
A pure luck that avgas from the wreckage didn't reach the stricken car.

[jmmoric]

Could have been in control until hitting the wires/poles? An emergency landing gone wrong....

But that's a big "could".

[treadigraph]

One of the car occupants has apparently died subsequently.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/248835

[rnzoli]

The crash occurred literally next to the aiport perimeter fence, which makes it even more tragic. Are we seeing another "let me try to stretch the glide" attempt, or did the pilot try to line up with the runway with too little speed and lost control on the base-to-final turn?
With so close the a very large airport, you can practically land everywhere, even across runways.
https://www.google.com/maps/@25.9985...7i16384!8i8192

[Piper_Driver]

My understanding is that the pilot was trying to return to the airport immediately after takeoff possibly due to a mechanical issue. Could this be another attempt to return after an engine failure on climb out?

[thcrozier]

I don't think the gear was down.

[piesupper]

Maybe leaving the gear up till the last minute to stretch the glide and stalled it anyway? Very difficult to tell from the video but seems the vertical component was significant, it dropped out of the sky.

[thcrozier]

Landing gear, flaps too

Originally Posted by piesupper

Maybe leaving the gear up till the last minute to stretch the glide and stalled it anyway? Very difficult to tell from the video but seems the vertical component was significant, it dropped out of the sky.

I owned a B36tc from 1983 to 1994. It’s very easy for me to visualize the scene from the cockpit if it’s what I suspect.

I probably wouldn’t have had the gear down either. But you don’t get into that attitude at that altitude unless you’ve stopped flying.

[skadi]

Originally Posted by Piper_Driver

My understanding is that the pilot was trying to return to the airport immediately after takeoff possibly due to a mechanical issue. Could this be another attempt to return after an engine failure on climb out?

No, he flew several miles to the west before returning to the field...

https://de.flightaware.com/live/flight/N236BC

skadi

[RatherBeFlying]

Edit as flightaware trace from previous week:

Unfortunately developers like to surround airports with housing, malls and industry, precluding landing options when you can't quite make it all the way back to the airport.

In this case the pilot turned back over open country (likely swampland) where a survivable landing was more likely than over built up areas if/when the unhappy engine totally quit.

It's an unhappy choice between rural roads and swampland, but he did have enough time to pick out the best looking spot.

[thcrozier]

Originally Posted by skadi

No, he flew several miles to the west before returning to the field...

https://de.flightaware.com/live/flight/N236BC

skadi

That flight was a week before the accident.

[skadi]

Originally Posted by thcrozier

That flight was a week before the accident.

Ah, ok I missed that. Was from the link in Aviation-Safety

skadi

[ajw024]

It's a tragic loss of life. NTSB may find something that will help us be safer pilots. It looks like nose down, steep decent, quite a lot of bank before impact. My immediate take away lesson is, some glides can't be stretched.

[capngrog]

According to the FAA Website, the accident aircraft, N236BC, although having a valid registration, did not have a current airworthiness certificate.

Here's a link:

https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInq...umberTxt=236BC

Judging by the appearance of the propeller blades in this frame (at 0:58) of one of the videos available, the engine was not producing power at the time of impact.

You Tube

R.I.P.

Regards,
Grog