Accidents and Close Calls Discussion on accidents, close calls, and other unplanned aviation events, so we can learn from them, and be better pilots ourselves.

Mid-air in France

Old 10th Oct 2020, 19:23
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Miles away
Posts: 71
Mid-air in France

Unhappy outcome....https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...hes-microlight
Procrastinus is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2020, 19:48
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 12,183
Diamond DA40 with 3 up and an unidentified microlight with 2 on board. No survivors.
DaveReidUK is online now  
Old 10th Oct 2020, 20:08
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: EBZH
Posts: 2,598
Unidentified?
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/243790
RIP
Jan Olieslagers is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 07:41
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Luberon
Age: 68
Posts: 916
A translation from this mornings French press...

"The small ULM crashed rue Aristide Briand, (less than two kilometers from downtown Loches, editor's note) and the tourist plane in the Haut Jarry sector, a little on the outskirts of the town, not far of the water tower, ”she said.

According to Tours public prosecutor Grégoire Dulin, "two bodies were found in the ULM and two others on the plane". "A person who would have fallen, probably from the plane, was not found," he added, adding that the plane had crashed into a tree in a place difficult to access.

"The pilot of the plane is 75 years old, his two passengers 28 and 30 years old. The pilot of the ULM is 66 years old and his passenger 50 years old", specified Mr. Dulin, adding that there was " no family relationship "between these people."

This corresponds to witness reports of someone falling from one of aircraft.
sitigeltfel is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 09:27
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: EGLL
Posts: 438
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Diamond DA40 with 3 up and an unidentified microlight with 2 on board. No survivors.
ASN disagrees with the Beeb report, telling us a Robin, not a Diamond.

Ciels bleues...
G-ARZG is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 15:32
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Rhones-Alpes
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by G-ARZG View Post
ASN disagrees with the Beeb report, telling us a Robin, not a Diamond.

Ciels bleues...
A Robin DR 400 according t local press

https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-div...corps-retrouve

That would be "Cieux Bleus " but I don't think that is said either.
Tartiflette Fan is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 15:53
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: France
Posts: 962
I don't think the correctness of the language matters. What does concern me is knowing the identity of the microlight pilot without worrying relatives. The name of the DR400 pilot has been made public. Does anyone know who the pilot of the microlight was? It's rather close to home for me. By PM if you prefer.
Piper.Classique is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 17:19
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 12,183
The ultralight passenger was reportedly a 50-year-old female, no information on whether she was related to the unidentified pilot.
DaveReidUK is online now  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 18:18
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: France
Posts: 962
It's the pilot that is worrying me. Could be one of two people I know who fly there. The age fits.
Piper.Classique is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 19:11
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: France
Age: 64
Posts: 60
Regional paper report naming pilot

https://www.sudouest.fr/2020/10/11/u...9374-10407.php
Repos is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 19:56
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: France
Posts: 962
Yes, thank you, but I wanted the name of the microlight pilot. Expect I will find out tomorrow. Could be one of two instructors, or someone else entirely. It's a strange place to be sightseeing, especially at low level, rather than over the Loire Châteaux. Loches has some interesting history, but isn't terribly visually exciting.
Piper.Classique is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2020, 21:10
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 12,183
Originally Posted by Piper.Classique View Post
It's a strange place to be sightseeing, especially at low level, rather than over the Loire Châteaux.
From the link in the post prior to yours:

"C’était un vol découverte permettant d’embarquer des personnes extérieures au club. Ils devaient survoler quatre châteaux de la Loire et revenir à Poitiers."
DaveReidUK is online now  
Old 12th Oct 2020, 02:34
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: France
Posts: 962
Yes, indeed But Loches is rather on the way to the Chateaux , or on the way back from either of the airfields, not a place where any significant sightseeing takes place, so I would normally have expected both aircraft to be in cruise at that point. It's quite a small town surrounded by woods and fields, so one in the town and one outside isn't surprising. Only one large building, not of great visual interest compared with the Chateaux on the Loire. Benign weather, good visibility. One report mentioned the aircraft were low, but no actual height indication. The Pioneer is a fairly fast microlight, both types have excellent visibility for the pilot. I'm really struggling to imagine how this happened.
Piper.Classique is offline  
Old 12th Oct 2020, 07:49
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: uk
Age: 71
Posts: 67
Piper.Classique. You have a PM
Skylark58 is offline  
Old 26th Oct 2020, 10:48
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Geneva
Posts: 12
The plane is indeed a Robin DR400. No flight plan was filed by either DR400 and ULM. If flight plan were filed and active contact with FIS established, the mid air collision could probably have been avoided.
UNpeople is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.