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Dog likely cause plane crash Iowa in 2017, NTSB says with Death of 90 yo Jerry Naylor

Old 11th Apr 2019, 20:40
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Dog likely cause plane crash Iowa in 2017, NTSB says with Death of 90 yo Jerry Naylor

Nearly two years after a Scotch Grove man was killed in a plane crash, the National Transportation Safety Board has determined the crash was likely caused by the man’s dog, coming in control with the aircraft’s controls during landing.Jerry Naylor, 90, was killed when the plane he was piloting crashed into a cornfield near the Monticello Regional Airport at 4 p.m. on July 1, 2017. His plane was found about 50 yards away from the airport’s runway, authorities said.According to the report, Naylor was flying a Flight Design CTSW single-engine light sport airplane with his 70- to 75-pound labradoodle, Jasmine, who was sitting in the passenger seat of the two-seat aircraft.
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/public-safety/ntsb-determines-2017-plane-crash-near-monticello-was-likely-caused-by-pilots-dog-jerry-naylor-scotch-grove-20190411
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 20:25
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Here's one where the pilot claimed to the NTSB that his dog unlatched the canopy, causing the aircraft to land short of the runway. I witnessed this particular accident from the run-up area and was the first person on the scene, the pilot told ME that he had unlatched the canopy to clear some condensation and neglected to latch it before takeoff.

https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Re...=HTML&IType=CA

When I fly with my dog (Husky, ~55 lbs) she wears a chest harness, and is tethered to the baggage tie-down so that she cannot reach the front seats. She mostly sleeps, but wakes up as soon as we reduce power for descent/landing.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 08:02
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..or the age maybe?

Might have been the dog,or might have been the pilot. The gentleman was 90 years old. A truly respectable age, where it is better to fly with a safety pilot friend, than a dog.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 23:27
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To save you having to read the report you will be pleased to know that the dog survived.
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 22:07
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At 90, the old boy, bless him, should be happy with the way he went.
Theres no way someone of that age should be flying or driving .
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 23:02
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>> Theres no way someone of that age should be flying or driving .<<

Why not, Russ ? If the guy has jumped through all the medics hoops, who are you to deny him probably his greatest pleasure ?
A few years ago we had an 84 year old ex-Spitfire pilot who was still flying his Pitts S2B solo.
Me ? I'm 80 and still enjoying my regular aeros sessions.
Remember you'll soon be over 80 as well..........
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 05:36
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Originally Posted by Sleeve Wing View Post
>> Theres no way someone of that age should be flying or driving .<<

Why not, Russ ? If the guy has jumped through all the medics hoops, who are you to deny him probably his greatest pleasure ?
A few years ago we had an 84 year old ex-Spitfire pilot who was still flying his Pitts S2B solo.
Me ? I'm 80 and still enjoying my regular aeros sessions.
Remember you'll soon be over 80 as well..........
He was flying a Light Sport which does not require a medical if you’ve never been denied one.
Also one with very light control forces.
And I concur that at 90 you shouldn’t be in anything motorized unless it’s a mobility scooter.
The fact somebody flew a Spitfire 70 years ago when they were 19-20 doesn’t mean anything.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 18:15
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>> The fact somebody flew a Spitfire 70 years ago when they were 19-20 doesn’t mean anything. <<

You're probably right, B2N2. Maybe I'm just jealous, having had occasion to fly one a couple of years ago ! Bit different to a single seat jet.....
However, the fact that he was still capable of taming the idiosyncracies of an S2B at that age I feel says an awful lot for his initial training and his inherent personal skill.


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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 21:12
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
And I concur that at 90 you shouldn’t be in anything motorized unless it’s a mobility scooter.
My FiL was driving absolutely fine at 90. It was at 99 that his relatives had to get him to stop.
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 14:36
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Originally Posted by Russell Gulch View Post
At 90, the old boy, bless him, should be happy with the way he went.
Theres no way someone of that age should be flying or driving .
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So true.....the pilot that caused the crash I managed to survive in 2013, but with injuries,was 82.....he died 5 days after the accident but that doesn't help me. Oh, and he was also a poor car driver, for example ignoring red lights.
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My goal is to emulate George Neal - who was the oldest licenced pilot in the world:
https://romeooscar.com/news/george-n...ronto-tribute/
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 05:56
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There was a case some years ago of a pilot in an R44 helicopter, whose German Shepherd got out of the rear seat and attacked him. With the rapid response to control inputs, the R44 promptly turned turtle, the blade departed the scene and the rest followed the laws of gravity.
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What an utterly pointless, stupid, unnecessary way to die, taking a bloody dog - of all things - on a flight. And evidently unsecured.

Doesn't this belong somewhere near the top of the Darwin Awards thread?



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Old 4th May 2019, 14:09
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Judging , judging .. Flying with a dog is not problem if it is secured in the back seat with a short leach or better in the luggage compartment .Putting it on the front seat is asking for trouble, common sense.
Prohibiting flying above a certain age ? Glad you are not a politician reacting to a single event ! For info a few years ago there were more pilots above 80 in the USA that all the pilots registered in EASA land.
There are people of 30 who are far more dangerous in the air than some good old 80+ pilots
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I once flew Inverness to Glenforsa in a Jodel, with co-owner in RHS holding his Jack Russel. He flew back with me in the RHS holding the dog. Electrical failure meant I had to reach behind and get my Icom and headset adapter out of my flightbag while holding the terrier with one arm. No problems, although turbulent in the hills.
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 13:23
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo View Post
What an utterly pointless, stupid, unnecessary way to die, taking a bloody dog - of all things - on a flight. And evidently unsecured.

Doesn't this belong somewhere near the top of the Darwin Awards thread?
A lot of people do take dogs on flights in small airplanes
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Originally Posted by alioth View Post
A lot of people do take dogs on flights in small airplanes
Mine gets positively annoyed if he sees me getting out the flying kit and he doesn't get to come along! He's securely restrained in the back seat with a harness.
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