Small plane crashes into house in California 1 + 4 fatalities
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Certificate: COMMERCIAL PILOT
Date of Issue: 6/4/2008
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COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
ROTORCRAFT-HELICOPTER
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Date of Issue: 6/4/2008
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COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
ROTORCRAFT-HELICOPTER
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Audio Track
Listening to the audio track of the accident, but not knowing whether the bang at the end was the collision with the ground or the inflight breakup, I am reminded of the sound of WW-2 fighters doing a high g pullup. There is a dramatic doppler drop just before the bang.
I am guessing that the bang is the sound of the breakup, and the dramatic drop in doppler corresponds to a high g pullup but at the moment we do not know the geometric relationship of the microphone to the aircraft's flight path.
I would expect that ATC radars and audio will have significant information as to what transpired in this accident.
This is looking more like a loss of control accident as others have suggested.
I am guessing that the bang is the sound of the breakup, and the dramatic drop in doppler corresponds to a high g pullup but at the moment we do not know the geometric relationship of the microphone to the aircraft's flight path.
I would expect that ATC radars and audio will have significant information as to what transpired in this accident.
This is looking more like a loss of control accident as others have suggested.
Twin vs Single
7000ft vs 2300ft
Single occupant vs dodgy passenger transport
Instrument rated vs not properly rated
Over land vs over water
Warm CA vs icy UK
I'd be tempted to ask what on earth you're smoking. The only similarity appears to be "an airplane crashed".
It's been many years since I flew turbocharged twin Cessnas but I do remember the importance of the "V-clamp AD" that required frequent inspections of the exhaust system. The AD came about after several accidents where the exhaust fittings had come loose, leaking hot exhaust gas and igniting a magnesium and avgas fueled fire which would burn right through the wing spar in no time.
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I just watched another video which mentioned that the pilot was a retired police officer, 75 years old, so it is possible that some medical event/pilot incapacitation took place.
The video link
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Listening to the video bafandguy posted, the first part sounds more like a single than a twin - bit like a big Extra diving in to begin a display?
It's been many years since I flew turbocharged twin Cessnas but I do remember the importance of the "V-clamp AD" that required frequent inspections of the exhaust system. The AD came about after several accidents where the exhaust fittings had come loose, leaking hot exhaust gas and igniting a magnesium and avgas fueled fire which would burn right through the wing spar in no time.
Though I guess having it happen even on one side means your luck has just run out ...
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Yorba Linda plane crash: Pilot was carrying false credentials that ID'd him as ex-Chicago police officer
https://abc7.com/oc-plane-crash-pilo...x-cop/5121959/
Pilot seems to own a restaurant in an obscure Nevada city
https://www.nevadaappeal.com/news/lo...a-linda-crash/
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.16...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.nevadaappeal.com/news/lo...a-linda-crash/
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.16...7i13312!8i6656
What exactly is obscure with Carson City? It is a well enough known place.
Apparently he did own another place before that in his resident city of Gardnerville NV which closed in 2014. Gardnerville is in close proximity to Carson City, the airport of Minden, where he was based is in between the two.
Apparently he did own another place before that in his resident city of Gardnerville NV which closed in 2014. Gardnerville is in close proximity to Carson City, the airport of Minden, where he was based is in between the two.
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Vne Excedance?
The small plane ascended to about 7,800 feet before it crashed about 10 minutes after taking off from the Fullerton Municipal Airport, National Transportation Safety Board investigator Maja Smith said.
Short of instrument failure or pilot incapacitation, this type of loss of control accident should not occur to a competent instrument pilot.
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He changed his name according to his daughter:
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/I-Just-Love-Him-More-Than-Anything-Woman-Mourns-Hero-Fathers-Loss-505334071.html
An alias and a fake badge? Hmmm...
Julia Ackley said her her father was known as Antonio or Tony Pastini but was born Jordan Isaacson and was an experienced pilot.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/I-Just-Love-Him-More-Than-Anything-Woman-Mourns-Hero-Fathers-Loss-505334071.html
An alias and a fake badge? Hmmm...
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I personally know a policeman (and this pilot supposedly was a former police officer) who had to change his name and move to a different place in order to protect himself and his family. Some of the guys they help put up in state care really seek revenge once they come out again... So there could be a good reason for this guy to change his identity.
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I personally know a policeman (and this pilot supposedly was a former police officer) who had to change his name and move to a different place in order to protect himself and his family. Some of the guys they help put up in state care really seek revenge once they come out again... So there could be a good reason for this guy to change his identity.
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may have been alluding to inflight loss of control, possibly weather a factor....