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Old 25th Jun 2019, 10:44
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It's clear that regulations were broken. But to prove beyond reasonable doubt that breaching these was the cause of the deaths is going to be very hard. Not sure the CPS has the right charge here. I think the defendant may get away with it, but later face prosecution from the CAA.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 12:14
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I guess a key point in what checks and balances should be made will be reflecting upon what checks and balances authority sees fit to perform.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 19:15
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Originally Posted by Dan Winterland
It's clear that regulations were broken. But to prove beyond reasonable doubt that breaching these was the cause of the deaths is going to be very hard. Not sure the CPS has the right charge here. I think the defendant may get away with it, but later face prosecution from the CAA.
I don’t think there is much of a financial trail to follow here as the money was intended to be paid after the event. You will have a statement from Willie McKay that he asked for the flight to be arranged and intended to pay for it. You will probably have records from previous flights where money has changed hands. You will have the records of Ibbotson’s spending using Henderson’s credit card.

I am presuming that Henderson had been given the job of managing the aircraft by the aircraft’s owner, he advertised himself as an aircraft manager. He would not have been doing his job if he released the aircraft without checking the qualifications of the pilot, if he was then involved in a conversation with the pilot to instruct him to conduct a flight outside of his qualifications then it makes it an easier case to prove. Henderson also advertised himself as an Air Charter Broker which makes it more difficult to put as his defence that he just put someone in contact with a friend. Anyone approaching him for a charter has a reasonable expectation that they will be put in a licenced aircraft with a qualified pilot.

it was at the point that Willie Mackay made his public announcement that he approached Henderson to arrange a charter that I decided that a manslaughter charge would have a good chance of success.

Unfortunate for the prosecution if they are depending on Willie McKay as a witness. He has already got off very leniently for harassment of Cardiff City employees, now he has been charged with two counts of fraudulent transfer of property.

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Old 26th Jun 2019, 07:06
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Unfortunate for the prosecution if they are depending on Willie McKay as a witness. He has already got off very leniently for harassment of Cardiff City employees, now he has been charged with two counts of fraudulent transfer of property.
What a litany of transgressions. Even when attending the man's funeral.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-burn-cardiff/

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Old 26th Jun 2019, 10:03
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From the BBC website today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48764955
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Old 28th Jun 2019, 21:11
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Originally Posted by Dan Winterland
It's clear that regulations were broken. But to prove beyond reasonable doubt that breaching these was the cause of the deaths is going to be very hard. Not sure the CPS has the right charge here. I think the defendant may get away with it, but later face prosecution from the CAA.
Causation?
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 11:15
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I can't post links due to my number of posts, but according to the BBC today he has failed to turn up at court.
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This one? (Actually yesterday)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49177021


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Old 9th Aug 2019, 10:34
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-48929607
A couple have appeared in court for posting pictures of his post mortem examination.
How sick are those two b*stards??
Be lucky
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 12:00
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Utterly sickening. I’m glad the Judge has indicated that they face prison. I hope it’s a long stretch!
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What were those two twisted individuals thinking? I'm sure that money came into it somewhere.
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 19:12
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Link to report on today's court appearance: Emiliano Sala: Pair admit accessing post-mortem CCTV
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Those persons are the first to appear in court.
There seems to be a loud silence concerning the rest of the people involved directly or not in the footballer's death.
Those who commissioned the flight, the aircraft broker who even lent his credit card to the pilot.
Hard to believe how a parachute dropping pilot, only involved in a few illegal air-taxi operations, could be considered even remotely qualified for air charter transport of a VIP.
Obviously the aircraft broker contacted the pilot, and knew everything about his qualifications and recency on the aircraft...
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49345186
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 13:14
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AAIB second special report published
https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aaib...-malibu-n264db
Sala's blood contained Carbon Monoxide at over 50%, which is considered a potentially fatal dose.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 13:15
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Well this puts a new perspective on things...
Possibly fatal levels of Carbon Monoxide...
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Toxicology tests on the blood of the passenger showed a carboxyhaemoglobin (COHb) saturation level of 58%.
COHb is the combination product of carbon monoxide (CO) with haemoglobin, the oxygen-carrying protein molecule contained in red blood cells.
CO is a colourless, odourless gas produced from the incomplete combustion of carbon-containing materials.
It readily combines with haemoglobin in the blood, decreasing the carriage of oxygen and causing a direct effect on the performance of those parts of the body which rely on oxygen for proper function.
A COHb level of 50% or above in an otherwise healthy individual is generally considered to be potentially fatal.
In this type of aircraft, the cockpit is not separated from the cabin2 and it is considered likely that the pilot would also have been affected to some extent by exposure to CO
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 13:20
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Originally Posted by switch_on_lofty
AAIB second special report published
Sala's blood contained Carbon Monoxide at over 50%, which is considered a potentially fatal dose.
That changes things somewhat - 50% is well over the fatal concentration. Carbon monoxide is a byproduct of incomplete combustion, so that is most likely to be either exhaust leakage into the cabin or a fire. This might throw a new light on the strange behaviour of the plane in the last few minutes of flight if the pilot was also being overcome by fumes.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 13:23
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Sala 'exposed to carbon monoxide in plane crash'

Footballer Emiliano Sala, who died in a plane crash over the English Channel, had been exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide, a report has revealed.

Sala and pilot David Ibbotson, crashed on 21 January when travelling to Cardiff from the French city of Nantes.

The Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) said in a report that toxicology tests found a high saturation level of carbon monoxide in Sala's blood.

Mr Ibbotson, from Crowle, Lincolnshire, has still not been found.

But it is likely he would also have been exposed to carbon monoxide, the report added.


[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49345186
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 13:24
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Emiliano Sala exposed to harmful levels of carbon monoxide on board aircraft

Brings a whole different slant to the investigation!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartanntp
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 13:26
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If I remember right, there is some questions about the pilots competency / legality of caring fare paying passenger. But does this finding mean that aircraft was at fault rather than the pilot ? I presume small or any aircraft don't have carbon monoxide alarms ?
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