Thomas Cook Birdstrike???
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Thomas Cook Birdstrike???
Hi all, does anyone know if a Thomas Cook flight suffered a bird strike around 30th June?
Girlfriend was flying from Bodrum to Gatwick but flight delayed/cancelled for 24 hours. After trying to claim for compensation for delay and loss of premium seat upgrade (paid for), they have replied that the outgoing flight suffered a bird strike and they are not liable for paying compensation. I realise the latest court rulings agree that bird strike is classed as extraordinary event, but do not recall anything in the news about this event and was wondering if they are just using this as an excuse to not pay out.
IIRC bird strikes are reportable incidents, so we have asked for details regarding the AAIB report they made on the off chance they are telling the truth.
Thanks all.
Girlfriend was flying from Bodrum to Gatwick but flight delayed/cancelled for 24 hours. After trying to claim for compensation for delay and loss of premium seat upgrade (paid for), they have replied that the outgoing flight suffered a bird strike and they are not liable for paying compensation. I realise the latest court rulings agree that bird strike is classed as extraordinary event, but do not recall anything in the news about this event and was wondering if they are just using this as an excuse to not pay out.
IIRC bird strikes are reportable incidents, so we have asked for details regarding the AAIB report they made on the off chance they are telling the truth.
Thanks all.
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Good luck with that. I doubt very much you will get it from Thomas Cook & the statement below is straight off the CAA website.
Under the new regulation, occurrence information can only be used to maintain or improve aviation safety. This means that we can't release occurrence information to the general public or to the media, including in response to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
Link for info https://www.caa.co.uk/Our-work/Make-...nce-reporting/
Under the new regulation, occurrence information can only be used to maintain or improve aviation safety. This means that we can't release occurrence information to the general public or to the media, including in response to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
Link for info https://www.caa.co.uk/Our-work/Make-...nce-reporting/
Most birds just bounce off, with minimal damage or none to the aircraft but lots to the bird.
would have thought a bird strike serious enough for them to return to land at Gatwick and then ground the aircraft for 24 hours would have been picked up by someone and posted on prune, as the Manchester one was a few years ago.
would have thought a bird strike serious enough for them to return to land at Gatwick and then ground the aircraft for 24 hours would have been picked up by someone and posted on prune, as the Manchester one was a few years ago.
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Most birds just bounce off, with minimal damage or none to the aircraft but lots to the bird.
would have thought a bird strike serious enough for them to return to land at Gatwick and then ground the aircraft for 24 hours would have been picked up by someone and posted on prune, as the Manchester one was a few years ago.
would have thought a bird strike serious enough for them to return to land at Gatwick and then ground the aircraft for 24 hours would have been picked up by someone and posted on prune, as the Manchester one was a few years ago.
Knowing the exact date would help.
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<<but an MOR will have been filed with the CAA>>
Presumably a recent ruling Dave? I don't recall any MORs being filed for bird strikes during my career. Early one morning at Heathrow we had 210 bird strikes in a few minutes!
Presumably a recent ruling Dave? I don't recall any MORs being filed for bird strikes during my career. Early one morning at Heathrow we had 210 bird strikes in a few minutes!
Here are a few examples from the days when the CAA did publish MOR events:
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Regulation (EU) No 376/2014 now in force, lays down the list of MORs, which includes wildlife strikes (including birdstrikes). It's now a legal requirement to file an MOR when a birdstrike occurs. Can't remember if that was the case before, when it was CAA regs in the UK.
less than 25% of actual birdstrikes get reported. Presumably because the crew does not know for sure. however the bird does know and leaves its imprint to be seen on the engine, airplane, or runway.
Even when it's suspected as a might-of, the crews have been hesitant to write a maybe in the log without supporting overt evidence.(it takes time to write up a log when you could be off the plane heading to another gig)
I tend to think that the so called "new" reporting requirements mentioned above might only apply when the crew logs actually reflect the word bird or animal
Even when it's suspected as a might-of, the crews have been hesitant to write a maybe in the log without supporting overt evidence.(it takes time to write up a log when you could be off the plane heading to another gig)
I tend to think that the so called "new" reporting requirements mentioned above might only apply when the crew logs actually reflect the word bird or animal
