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Old 30th Mar 2017, 17:52
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Shoreham ditching

Anyone know which aircraft? Looks like a pa28
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The aircraft being a PA28 would be my guess as well from the photo

Two survive after plane crashes in sea at Shoreham - BBC News
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Cherokee G-ATVO
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Oh thanks, I've seen it around.
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If It Is G-AVTO then It is a PA28-140

Aircraft Data G-ATVO, 1966 Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee C/N 28-22020
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Happened too be watching Shoreham webcam during TVO departure, engine did not sound too healthy. Can a record be pulled from a stream?

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engine did not sound too healthy. Can a record be pulled from a stream?
Yes, that's fairly straightforward usually. Perhaps from that the media will be able to determine it's not a Cessna

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Local rag has vid of them swimming ashore. The discussion between two witnesses is quite amusing. Apparently the pilot was quite upset poor dear. One said he heard engine cut out.
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Perhaps from that the media will be able to determine it's not a Cessna

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Well, ITV said it was a Piper but BBC said Cessna, and if BBC said that then it must be true, right?
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The "Cessna" thing came from the original Sussex Police online report, which TBF did say "believed to be a Cessna".

It was later corrected, but by that time most of the media had run with the original material.
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To most people 'Cessna' is the equivalent of 'Hoover' and means a small white aeroplane i.e. not a 737.
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To most people 'Cessna' is the equivalent of 'Hoover' and means a small white aeroplane i.e. not a 737.
Sadly very true, reminds me of this
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And the ones in the left column are all flown by a single pilot, " the Captain".
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And the ones in the left column are all flown by a single pilot, " the Captain".
Well, obviously.... Why would they need any more than 1 crew member in a multi-crew aircraft. I'm a particular fan of the FO not getting ANY credit when the Captain handles a situation
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Passengers Quick Evacuation.

Looked to me like they got their luggage out of the baggage compartment before striking for shore. After all, you have to get your priorities right!
I would guess that they touched down on the foreshore and overran into the water at a low speed, as they stayed tail fin up?
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No one is going to touch down on that shingle beach.
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Looked to me like they got their luggage out of the baggage compartment before striking for shore. After all, you have to get your priorities right!
What if it was the docs and the PLB? Would they then have their priorities right? Besides, it doesn't have a baggage compartment anyway.
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Behind rear seats, stbd side.
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No, it doesn't. Check out any picture on the web. Old Cherokees didn't have it.
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