Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Non-Airline Forums > Accidents and Close Calls
Reload this Page >

'Lotsa brakes, got it stoped short...

Accidents and Close Calls Discussion on accidents, close calls, and other unplanned aviation events, so we can learn from them, and be better pilots ourselves.

'Lotsa brakes, got it stoped short...

Old 31st Oct 2015, 01:51
  #1 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 4,891
'Lotsa brakes, got it stoped short...

https://www.facebook.com/facebook/videos/10153231379

Lotsa brakes, and the pilot got it stopped quick, but not as intended. Once the plane slows a bit, the brakes and tires might grab even better. But as you slow, the elevator becomes less effective. I think the pilot was trying too hard - and had a audience to fly for...
Pilot DAR is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2015, 02:31
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N/A
Posts: 4,014
Won't let us in DAR.
megan is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2015, 12:43
  #3 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 4,891
Yes, I see that, let me work on it this evening....
Pilot DAR is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2015, 01:47
  #4 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 4,891
Apologies for the non functional link. I found the video elsewhere, so I hope this works for everyone:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=875_1315558906
Pilot DAR is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2015, 07:45
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wellington,NZ
Age: 64
Posts: 1,656
Oh. Bugga!
Tarq57 is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2015, 11:15
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,420
As we dinosaurs who learned on tail-wheel aircraft often say...

"Hold the stick right back as you touch on all 3 wheels, and keep it there."

Mind you, over-enthusiastic braking can always overcome that, especially when you've touched down as hot as that one.
Capot is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2015, 21:33
  #7 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 4,891
over-enthusiastic braking can always overcome that
A key element here is that as the plane slows on the ground, the elevator becomes less and less effective in opposing the pitching affect of the heavy braking. As you slow, you may not be able to apply as much braking.
Pilot DAR is offline  
Old 2nd Nov 2015, 00:37
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ijatta
Posts: 435
It'll buff out.
wanabee777 is offline  
Old 2nd Nov 2015, 06:30
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Down south
Posts: 662
Looks like it was some sort of spot /short landing competition judging by the cones and people there.
bingofuel is offline  
Old 2nd Nov 2015, 06:36
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Moray,Scotland,U.K.
Posts: 1,613
Was it a spot landing competition? The cones and observers at the runway edge make me wonder if the final cone had some significance.
Maoraigh1 is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2015, 00:08
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South
Posts: 636
Yes it was a landing competition.

The aircraft was repaired and flying again shortly after that incident.

Fuel high up in wing tanks also play a role in nose overs like this.
c100driver is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2015, 03:13
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 599
The aircraft was repaired and flying again shortly after that incident.
Oooo, I hope that the "shortly" included a replacement fin, fuselage repair, probably some wing repair, an engine and prop inspection. That's quite a lot of work!

Fuel high up in wing tanks also play a role in nose overs like this.
But could it be used as an excuse for the nose over during a landing competition? Or, was the pilot just working the plane too hard?
9 lives is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2015, 09:20
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: CEH2 (Black Diamond, Alberta)
Posts: 5,616
What struck me about the video, apart from the abrupt stop, was that the speed seemed excessively high for someone trying for a short landing.
India Four Two is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.