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Old 30th Nov 2017, 21:47
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Originally Posted by Concours77
At ninety degrees roll, there is no lift at all, save that reserved for heading! Rudder becomes elevator at knife edge. I don't see that, there is far too much forward travel. Dropping at that rate I would expect a smoking hole, not so much linear advance?
That's my opinion, but I'm not a pilot. That's why you're here!

The Electra can't knife-edge fly until it gets to about 250 kts. My simulator video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JiGSJ5xPQg So at 90 degrees and 160-ish kts we're talking about pure ballistics, and it would drop like a rock. I graphed that on page 24. But Lockheed measured a 5 degree slope from the power lines to the embankment. That sounds like a landing with no flare.
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