Originally Posted by
744drv
Once you deviate from the SID below MSA you are in the realms of pure luck.
Originally Posted by
AQIS Boigu
If you look at your terrain chart you will actually see that 3000ft is acceptable and ABOVE terrain clearance till about north and east of Tsing Yi (OCEAN SID) and all the way to PECAN. “Maintain 3000ft” gets occasionally issued by the tower if the preceeding aircraft’s ROC is low or if the crew is not adhearing to speed control (ie. Mainland carriers).
East of SMT and CH VOR is fine for 3000ft till you hit the New Territories and even Hong Kong Island can be overflown at that altitude legally if under radar control.
I can see where CX 905 was concerned about maintaining 3000 for the turn south toward RAMEN because the MSA is 4300 north of the 255 radial of TD. However, as AQIS Boigu points out, 3000 is OK from the ATC Surveillance Minimum Altitude Chart. CX 905 was told to stay on the SID (and not follow the folks ahead on the shortcut over DB
).
Originally Posted by
Curtain rod
But maybe the publicity (and fine?) from this one will provide some food for thought...oh wait!
Previous incidents suggest that a freighter on a midnight takeoff where nothing was bent might not generate much media attention.
Will there even be an investigation? Or will the crew file a safety report about the deviation and get a slap on the wrist for a nighttime noise violation?
Was the CVR 'accidentally' written over? Was a terrain escape maneuver performed in response to a EGPWS warning?
Did the crew debrief in ANC at F Street or the Bush Company?