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Old 11th Dec 2016, 21:09
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Slippery_Pete
 
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Thanks for the informed response, Duke Ben. It's much more helpful than people who can't put their pride away for a second.

Rwy 09 USAGE - In terms of why Rwy 09 isn't used much in addition to Rwy 16 during easterly winds, there isn't a runway mode setup (with SIDS and STARS designed with inbuilt separation) to allow for this configuration.
So, the scenario you posted with 150/10 prohibiting the nomination of 27 - the only reason they don't go to RWY 09 and 16 is because there's no procedures for this?

That's not the controller's fault, but what an absolute disgrace. An operational runway, sitting there that could be used - but no-one knows how? This is one of the reasons why a two runway airport has the delays and performance of a one runway airport.

A Rwy 09 Arrivals 16 Departures mode with built in separated SIDS and STARS has been looked at as a possible solution but I'm not sure where this is at presently.
So, in the mean time, millions of dollars in holding and delays and GDP is being pissed away by the airlines. ASA should make it an absolute priority to actually run Melbourne as a two runway airport. Currently, the airlines are getting screwed because no-one has sat down and thought about how to do it.

The infrastructure is lagging and holding us back.
Partly, yes. The inability of ASA management to come up with solutions is also a big factor.

we've been told you guys will ask if you want it and not to offer.
Well that's typical. We've been told not to ask - promulgated by a notice even. Sounds like ASA management are taking all of us for a ride.

Plus, after GDP, min spd cruise and descent, with a hold at the end, why would we think it's available?
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