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Old 8th Dec 2015, 11:35
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Is it more training or better and more relevant training?
I think better training inevitably means more training.

We can talk about the pros & cons of automation and side sticks vs control columns until the cows come home. But the one thing above all which can't be ignored, is that reading the CVR 'transcripts' of both AF447 and QZ8501, both PFs' responses to the upset can be summed up as "Oh my god, what has happened!?!- I'm trying to fix it but nothing's working as I expect it to!! -I don't really understand what's going on!!!", with the PNF seemingly even further behind the plane than the PF.

With respect to the two dead crews, what frightens me most is, did they perform any better in the situation, than would an untrained member of the public, whose automatic response would be panic, followed by, 'we're going down, I must pull the stick back to make it go up again???'

If this is the case, then it is without doubt a training issue, and matters of automation are minor concerns in comparison.
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