I think the trapeze plan has been dropped?
I believe you're right CM so the points made, valid as they may mostly be, are kinda moot anyway! I'm not sure why we are discussing LOAL of an IR rocket from inside a bay. Doesn't mean HOBS and LOAL aren't valid though - agree with some of the CFoF issues you and NITRO bring up. All a bit nasty if the rocket isn't properly cued or updated.