Originally Posted by
mfeldt
From a distance of 30km, a plane at 6000m and one at 10000m appear at an angular distance of roughly 8 degrees to the man at the radar. If the 6000m plane is 12km closer (at 18km), they would appear in the same spot
The crew at the Buk TELAR radar has distance, altitude and speed instruments besides azimuth and elevation angle. The radar measures (slant) distance and (radial) speed (using Doppler effect, like highway police's radars), the builtin computer calculates altitude from distance and elevation angle. I have proof: a textbook on Buk TELAR. The computer is old and bulky, but it does its job. Just a glance at the speed and altitude instruments would be enough to understand that the target is neither An-26 nor An-30. The Buk missile has semi-active homing head - it means that the homing head contains receiver only, the transmitter is in the TELAR ("illuminating" mode of the radar). It's enough to switch off the radar in TELAR, and 3 seconds after that the missile self-destructs (the warhead detonates) in mid-flight. The missile flew for 33.5 seconds.
Two planes simultaneously so that they continuously appear as one dot on radar screen? Even if you assume such unbelievable coincidence, where another plane is on the record from two Rostov primary radars?
Originally Posted by
LYBE
do you really believe that SSU reports can be viewed and treated seriously ?
I consider only two versions of MH17 shootdown, one of them is SSU's:
http://sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/en/pub...?art_id=129860
In both versions the Buk TELAR was transported on a low-loader by separatists, but the TELAR and its crew were from Kursk, Russia; the crew thought that they shot at an Ukrainian army aircraft Il-76, An-26 or An-30. The difference between these two versions is whom the upper commander wanted to shoot down: in the SSU's version a Russian passenger jet, in another version indeed an Ukrainian army airplane.
The head of JIT (Dutch prosecutor Fred Westerbeke) told in an interview that (cellular) phone taps by SSU are deemed by JIT as “authentic recordings” and that they “were analyzed through and through”:
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/04/01/...ion-team-mh17/
The difference between us (the public) and JIT is that JIT no doubt requested and got sources of the phone taps: SSU recorded all cellular communications in the war zone. Westerbeke told that Ukraine answered to all their requests, unlike Russia:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justi...-a-999193.html
Recently JIT took soil samples at the missile launch site and recorded signals from cell towers in the occupied part of Donetsk region - apparently in order to get more proof of authenticity of the phone taps.
Originally Posted by
LYBE
even the former Head of SSU resigned as he couldn't stand it anymore....
He didn't resign, he was fired by parliamentary vote after the president's request.