Of course they were not right ! - any 9 year old spotter could have told them that LOL
Isn't that precious? 9 year olds can see what hundreds of experts from several nations cannot. And these guys insist on being taken seriously.
I do not need data to back up anything Ken - I have been an aircraft engineer for 40+ years and I know a Turkey when I see one
And you actually fantasize that your 40 years with zero data trumps the combined centuries of experience of engineers with mountains of data and hugely sophisticated simulation/modelling systems to process that data. And you insist on being taken seriously? Really? Apparently your four decades of experience neglected to include an understanding of the words arrogance and hubris.