You are probably right now I reflect a little more carefully, ozaggie. Your reference to Pat made me think. They were the good old days and those guys flew those machines VFR in all kinds of weather. It was the era, I think. I do remember Lance's love for the Twin Bonanza but that was a few years later too. Some of the antics prompted a wise crack from a tower controller " In weather like this I'd rather be up here than up there!"