Don't bite fellas - downbeater obviously knows not much about the Herc world. Many of us, like me, did fail elsewhere and ended up on Hercs. I, for one, am very happy that I did. There are also many who never failed a trip in their lives. I am 're-union-ing' with a motley bunch this weekend, and will enjoy chuckling with the former QWIs, single-seaters, etc over their failed careers. Perhaps I could ask the 4 DFC winners how they feel about being failures ?