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Old 20th Mar 2015, 17:05
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A_Van
 
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You wrote: "Where is the Source for that? Along which Route? RU displayed Route or real Route?"


Sorry, do not understand that. The route is well-known and recorded. If there are some discrepancies among different sources of measurement, they are minor, at least as compared with the operating range of the Buk missile (c.a. 35 km).


The pictures taken by the Russian military satellites were published a few days after the tragedy. Thought they were discussed here. Whether to trust them or not is rather a matter of religion or social psychology. Anyway, the US and Western Europe did not present anything similar to be discussed. Here is the full article with maps and pictures:


http://www.kp.ru/daily/26258.5/3137481/


Sorry it's in Russian, therefore some comments on some images (enlarged)


Map with locations of Ukrainian Buk batteries on that day:


http://s3.stc.all.kpcdn.net/f/4/image/50/59/825950.jpg


Pictures taken on 14/07, i.e. 3 days before. The Buks started arriving in the war area:


http://s5.stc.all.kpcdn.net/f/4/imag...03926831454887


http://s3.stc.all.kpcdn.net/f/4/imag...33229944007336


http://s1.stc.all.kpcdn.net/f/4/imag...41225791035507


I assume you skipped all the above, therefore here are some video footages generated by the Ukrainian official media:


The following promo was shown the day _before_ the catastrophe. From 4.45 thru 4.55 the commentary addresses the Ukrainian forces operating in the "anti-terror operation area". The Buk is clearly visible with the Ukrainian army staff around:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Q3MomxNHnUA


The Ukrainian analyst is pointing to this fragment:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Lgfa_kWm4_k


Again, for me all this does not mean anything. No serious proof concerning who IS to be blamed. Looks like the current civilization has totally forgotten the Roman principle stating "presumption of innocence" though formally it is declared under e.g. the Anglo-American Common Law.


First few months after the tragedy there were hopes that the Dutch investigation team would quickly dig out the truth. Then these hopes vanished in the haze. Extremely slow work. Never heard that any team like that left that many aircraft pieces lying in the field for many months (some are still there).
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