all this talk of stalls...
just remember for those of you who haven't heard of the many types of stall...if you can't get the nose down...
you might try rolling into a steep bank and this may cause the nose to come down eventually. this was taught many years ago when concepts like deep stall came out.
I would like to think that most planes certified will likely NOT get into the hairiest of stalls without some coaxing from either a very good test pilot or an odd sort of computer scenario.
I imagine , right now, that at least a dozen people in indonesia have a really good idea of what happened ...and what didn't happen...we might hear something in 10 days or so...just a guess