...Dr Weaver: I have chaired that committee since March this year.
Senator STERLE: So there are three of you on that who know about that.
Dr Weaver: There are also representatives from the rest of the organisation—so the chief auditor; the manager, security and resilience is often in attendance; and other representatives from people and culture.
Senator STERLE: You can provide names. That is fine. How many are there all up?
Dr Weaver: The key members of the committee are the executive—
Senator STERLE: Who would have known—Mr Weaver, very clear, very precise—when I asked the question of Ms Staib at Senate estimates two weeks ago, that there was credit card fraud?
Dr Weaver: The people that know of credit card fraud are the members of that committee and the representatives of that committee.
Senator STERLE: You have said all that. Tell me how many people—five, 10, half the organisation, 2,000, what?
Dr Weaver: To be clear, there will be other people that would know about individual cases of credit card fraud.
Senator STERLE: So a lot of people would know?
Dr Weaver: About individual cases, it would be quite a small number that would know about each individual case.
Senator STERLE: Mr Weaver, do you know how many people?
Dr Weaver: I do not know the exact number, no.
Senator STERLE: Can you find out for me, please?
Dr Weaver: Yes.
Answer:
Instances of serious credit card misuse are reported to the Fraud and Ethics Committee which has five permanent members:
Executive General Manager, Safety, Environment and Assurance
Chief Finance Officer
Executive General Manager, People and Culture
Executive General Manager, Projects and Engineering
Chief Auditor.
The number of people who may know of an individual case will vary depending on the circumstances and may involve staff from security and resilience, human resources, employee relations, legal counsel, in-line managers or senior executive outside of the committee. Matters are always dealt with cognisant of the privacy of the individual and balanced against organisational responsibilities to effectively manage the issue.
The details of the specific case that was raised at the 20 October 2014 Estimates hearing involving a staff member that was dismissed were explained during the in-camera hearing.