NoD, sorry yes that last 'BA' should obviously have said 'IAG'. I think my meaning was pretty clear from my suggesting BALPA is scared of IAG. TUPE does indeed offer an awful lot more protection than BALPA has led most BA pilots to believe. Most of what was suggested as a real threat during the BMI talks was from the land of the fairies. All the while that we as a group believe IAG's threat, the terms and conditions of BA pilots is going to plummet, and sadly it appears to be doing so at an exponential rate.