Thanks for the link there was nothing coming up in Google on this group. The website link seems to me just a list of accidents with photos of the wrecks, hardly grudge material. All of the info checks out in AAIB and the French BEA though, oddly there is nothing on the September 2012 incident yet. BUT this syndicate’s history has certainly made me think twice about handing over a wad of cash! Been doing a bit of research at Popham and it looks like folks have been walking away from this syndicate and leaving their cash behind and others are desperate to leave.(so I am told) The Wassmer has been US for over six months – a door came open in flight! 4 PA22s written off and the PA 17 comes up in the AAIB list twice from hard landing incidents which I would imagine required major reconstructive surgery I think I'll stay well clear of this one!