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Old 27th Feb 2013, 07:46
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While we're at it, here's another IFR question.

I know how it happens in reality in a lot of cases but to the letter of the law......

No VHF coverage on the ground and the HF doesn't want to play nice when you go to make your taxi call. You don't have a company representative with access to ATS by telephone and there's no mobile reception, but you know you'll get centre not too long after you take off and you know you'll be able to remain visual.

I often hear people making a departure report to centre on VHF with the phrase "No Joy HF" and give all their details. If you depart VFR then who is holding your SAR?

If you havn't been able to establish contact on the ground then you havn't initiated a SARWATCH, so if you go end up going in between taking off and getting centre........no one knows to come looking for you? Yes you have a flight plan in but that on its own will not initiate a SAR response if you dont report by a certain time will it? How can you legally depart?

Last edited by gettin' there; 27th Feb 2013 at 08:39. Reason: Clarification
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