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Old 18th Apr 2012, 14:25
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PukinDog
 
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Surely he should have his "professional" head on when he's in the front of an aircraft. He clearly didn't in this case... Either he panicked, or he doesn't give a damn about standard RT!

I know his primary contact is the controller, but it could be vital that his transmission is heard and understood by other pilots as well.
Pure, unadulterated rubbish.

The crew of the BA 777 who pancaked their aircraft short of the threshold when faced with a similar-type situation (within 90 seconds of landing faced with a sudden, dire situation forcing immediate action by both crew to keep the aircraft flying and under control). Mere seconds before impact the captain transmitted;

"Mayday mayday. Speedbird Speedbird. Nine-five nine five."

Except that they were Speedbird 38, not Speedbird 95 or Speedbird 9595 (however you might interpret that double number).

Wrong call sign. No location. No nature of emergency. The only reason the controller guessed correctly as to who and where that aircraft was visibility from the tower cab allowed him to see a 777 parked in the dirt where one wasn't supposed to be.

The captain then went on to give his PA evacuate order over the tower freq, instead of the PA.

Perhaps instead of asking this...

What would happen if the pilot in question had used non-standard RT during a sim check? He'd be grounded and sent back for re-training.
Maybe a better question you should ask is why a highly-trained pilot would use his sim check callsign and commit flagrant sins of R/T ommision during an actual, real-life emergency? I'm guessing, but I bet that BA Captain never did such a thing in the sim.

Panic? Hardly. A BA senior Captain who doesn't care about standard R/T?....that's too ludicrous to contemplate. Didn't have his professional head on? That BA crew kept flying the aircraft first and foremost and as a result, everyone survived when the result could have easily been otherwise.

I'd say the only problem here is you don't understand the difference between a dire situation that DEMANDS immediate, full attention to the task at hand with the accompanying survival response of brains going into hyperdrive (yes, even to the point less important priorities such as R/T aren't perfect or are innacurate) and a situation that doesn't. Frankly, any pilot committing anything less than 100 percent of their cognitive resources to flying the aircraft when that's what's needed is doing it wrong.

A cockpit of an aircraft suddenly filling with smoke during landing IMC to the point visibility inside is less than a foot (according to that company's info) requiring immediate action to include donning masks etc is a bona fide dire situation requiring the full focus and attention of both pilots to make it survivable. This is not the same situation as losing an engine (with no fire indication) after takeoff on a CAVOK day which in some aircraft I've flown doesn't even fall under the category of an "emergency" condition, but rather as an "abnormal" (What was that Thompson clip anyway....something that serves as aural porn for air-cadet one-stripers?).

Armchair aces commenting on that crews' "professionalism" based on an imperfect or garbled radio callsign through an o2 mask is a load of utter garbage. "Emergency" IS standard phraseology in the U.S., and that crew DID announce...twice...the most vital info (especially so because vis was 1/2 mile )...where they were and what they were doing....evacuating on Rwy 34R. This was heard by the controller, and yes, other aircraft.

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