can't fault your numbers binsleepin, but eveyone needs to stop falling into the trap of comparing some idealistic set of circumstances that isn't going to happen. I'm willing to bet the payscales of BA express would be alot less and THAT is the alternative to compare the new payscale to, not the current payscale. Those are currently the only to options. BMI as BA express or join mainline with a new payscale. Not great, but certainly the best option. BALPA and the pilots can only play the hand that is dealt. As I said before, if anyone has a problem speak to the people that dealt the cards, not the players.