I have also been into the EK Safety department for a debrief more like a witch hunt , there was very little interest in what happened and could we learn from it, and everything about whose fault was it and did you make an error because your decision cost the company money and someone needs to answer for that!
I was also not told that Fleet would be there as well, and in fact the guy form fleet did most of the talking , very different to my experience of the old VP Safety where things where informal and he really wanted to understand WHY, things happened . My belief is safety department is far too close to Fleet.
Nothing I have seen or heard of the new VP Safety would make me believe we are getting back to the non-punitive style of Safety department we use to have. I hope to be proved wrong.