Well perhaps bast0n, but that simply shows that there were many possible permutations of what actually happened, other than the RO's finding. If you have a feeble accident investigation topped off with an arbitrary finding based on a "model" then this is what you get. 15 years of alternative solutions! Unlike the BoI or the RO's findings this forum is not a formal accident investigation and is thus not constrained by the rules that they (in theory at least) were bound by. Yet I would suggest that more has emerged here, at the FAI and especially at the HoL than was ever considered or revealed by the BoI or RO's. That is not a judgement on those who post here. That is a judgement on the BoI, the RO's and the RAF!