Nigel, you led the successful campaign to battle harden the Hercules fleet and now ESF is fitted after a 40 years old shortfall in airworthiness in that respect. You have contributed greatly to the Nimrod thread where an admission of an even more serious shortfall in airworthiness has been made. Now you have posted here and mentioned the "a" word! Eventually the Chinook Mk2 will prove to be the final part of this ghastly menage a trois. As long as we knock ourselves out pleading for the Wratten and Day verdict to be scrapped we are tolerated, mainly ignored (as now), but tolerated. As soon as the fitness, or otherwise, of ZD576 for what was to be its final flight is alluded to - posts disappear into a Black Hole. I find this very unsettling and a little alarming. "Waiting for Des" is par for the course. Censoring you of all people is a disturbing and distinctly sinister twist to the thread. What's going on, Pop?