I have to take issue with regard to Bob Ayling. Had he had the support of King and Marshall BA may not be in the shambles it is today. He was the only CEO that was prepared to take on the Unions. Let us not delude ourselves the future of BA rests with a CEO that has the courage and support to take on the unions and manage the company. Presently, and in particular at T5 the Unions are back in charge. I have to agree with your remark about Skippy.