Thanks that does help. However boys and girls lets wait and see what the market dictates. The prospect of going home is very appealing. V OZ , LH Cargo ( the new one) , and just wait for the 787 to come on line to see what that does to the Boeing job market. Do your time, and the desert will have been great schooling for where you want to end up. " Non Standard ? Flap 15 please ...... " I want Europe