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Old 5th Dec 2007, 21:24
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DingerX
 
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What we do know is that the BA pilot went about it the wrong way."Yes you do" is way out of order for one professional pilot to say to another on an open frequency.Furthermore,to post it on a public forum with flight number and date is reprehensible.You can articulate your anger and/or disbelief without using specific information.
Point of information:
1. Not that it matters, but regardless of what LTD said, on the recording only "you do" can be heard. Whether the Iberia crew understood the remark cannot be ascertained. They did, however, clearly understand and acknowledge later, specific queries about ice.
2. LTD did not post the flight number here. He did post enough information so that anyone willing to spend a few minutes could figure out which flight it was. (hint: Iberia only has five flights a week to BOS, and the last month of ATC recordings for BOS are available on the internet) I posted the flight number.
3. Presumably a moderator changed the title of the thread, because people were complaining that it was counterproductive, suggesting that the uniform worn by Iberia flight crew included a stetson, chaps, six-shooters and, barring the A340-300 folks, spurs.

Rananim raises an interesting point, however (already hinted at in the "Professional Courtesy" article). Criticism doesn't always come directly:
CD: 6166 heavy expect runway 15R for departure, have you already deiced?
IB: say again for 6166.
CD: Do you need to deice sir?
IB: negative
BA45: You do
CD: alright, eh, do you plan on deicing at the gate, or do you need to go somewhere?
IB: IB6166 we are ready for push
CD: Iberia 6166 Heavy go ahead
IB: Iberia 6166 Heavy is ready for pushback.
CD: Iberia 6166 Heavy, have you deiced?
IB: Negative, we don't need it.
CD: Okay. Monitor ground .9
IB: .9 thank you and goodbye
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