Originally Posted by RWA
Further, the availability or otherwise of run-off areas would appear to be immaterial since none of the aircraft reached such areas before going out of control and veering off the runway altogether.
Sticking to the facts helps to make your argument more persuasive.
The Transasia incident landing stayed on the runway until after the runway threshold, and only veered off the stopway. Had this been an EMAS, it would possibly have stopped inside it. Look at the satellite image with superimposed track at pp.49,61 of the "Occurrence report".
Bernd