Thats why I had proposed way back when that the RETARD call should not only continue (per the Taipei accident report ) but that if one of the levers is not in idle that that lever should be identified and the call would then be RETARD TWO, RETARD TWO, RETARD TWO (or RETARD ONE as the case may be) until it is idled.
this is probably the one thing that Lemurian has agreed with me on.
