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Old 15th Feb 2023, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
Obviously the CL south west of the airport. Doesn't matter what you call it.
Correct, it doesn't matter what you call it but what relevance is it to a departure from RWY 06?

Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
It separates the Caravan from the 737 which is nose to nose inside 10nm, given the A320 is still a ways away. Perhaps the van could have done a 60 left and tracked off to the north to avoid both, but they certainly missed the 737 (unless it then did a missed approach...)
After the initial turn the van should have made a much wider turn rather than back over the aerodrome as shown in the ATSB graphic (figure 5).

Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
It seems that the controller can see where they are tracking: over to DW for 24. They do give an estimate for the A320 crossing the CL; they wouldn't have given that if it wasn't obvious where the A320 would cross the CL
Perhaps it was the way I phrased it "And where is the A320 tracking for their right downwind at this point?" When the Caravan was overhead the aerodrome and climbing, where (in relation to the Caravan) was the A320? We know from the ATSB report that SFIS says "tracking for a right downwind runway 24", but what is the proximity of these two aircraft? A320 on descent below 10,000ft, 250 knots +/- tailwind or headwind. Figure 2 has A320 at 21 NM at time 1341:27, Figure 5 has Caravan over the field heading north at time 1346:12, so where was the A320 at the same time (1346:12)?

Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
Put in a parallel taxiway and a tower!
Agreed. Local Council is responsible for the aerodrome facilities, CASA and AsA are responsible for the lack of an ATC Tower service.
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